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We Can’t Experience Eternal Life Without It Changing Our Life That Now Is 10/27/2019: full transcript and answers
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Pastor David G. Kincer teaches that eternal life and this life are directly proportional: you cannot know God without it changing how you live now. Jesus told the rich man to keep the commandments. Knowing God shows in honoring parents, loving others, refusing false witness and idols, and assembling together. We know Him if we keep His commandments.
What does God promise in two areas of life?
Short answer: God cannot lie, and His promise covers this life and the life to come: godliness has promise of both.
▶ 0:00 We’re going to continue talking about the promise of God in two areas of life. The scriptures gives us the promise and God is cannot lie so he will fulfill his promises and that is the life that now is this life and the life to come eternal life alright now it says in first Timothy 4:8 as we showed you the last time godliness. Now the suffix ness means. Condition of the word that preceded it so the condition or the state of godly being godly serving God doing what’s right is profitable it’s valuable it’s useful so the key thing here is godliness being profitable got it now profitable what and do all things wow all things and then he lists two of those things having the promise of life that now is and the promise of that which is to come first Timothy 4:8 but it’s profitable in all things.
Scripture in this part
1 Timothy 4:8 (NKJV)
For bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come.
— 1 Timothy 4:8 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 0:00Should holiness be taken out of the gospel?
Short answer: No. Don’t listen to people who take holiness and righteousness out of the gospel.
▶ 1:27 Godliness. Say godliness godliness don’t that just sound good. Godly say godly godly don’t you listen to these people that take holiness and righteousness out of the Bible and replace with faith and grace. So. I’m going to make a statement based on the word of God we can’t experience eternal life without it changing our life that now is. All right. You see this direct proportional sign in methe.
What is direct proportion?
Short answer: Anything that happens to one side has to happen to the other: knowing God and eternal life affect this life in the flesh.
▶ 2:19 Direct proportional means that anything that happens to one side has to happen to the other if you increase this side you have to increase this side for it to remain constant and balanced got it and see. Eternal life is directly report to your life that now is what you do with this life is going to affect this life what you do in this life is going to affect this life. Directly. Proportional. Remember how many remember seeing that sign and met. One. Two all right we’re gaining ground here. They taught me that in school it was engraved in my brain.
▶ 3:15 And that’s how you can solve algebra and other things when you understand any equation is directly proportional to the other side then you can understand that equation now. The Bible says in John 17:3 this is eternal life he’s going to define what eternal life is that you may know the only true God the only true God and his son Jesus Christ you can know him and that’s why the word we can’t experience eternal life you can’t experience knowing God and his son without it affecting this life in the flesh there’s just no way now you couldn’t believe you have eternal life and it won’t affect anything you can have faith that you have eternal life and it won’t affect anything but when you experience.
▶ 4:18 Being born of the spirit the spirit coming and dealing with you in your life it’s going to affect this life in the flesh. Is that a good amen so you’ve got to get past faith and belief and you got to experience I come across too many peoples of all I believe I believe I believe that’s fine but James says faith without works is dead belief in faith has to move you to an action and here it’s to the action to experience and really know the only true God and his son Jesus Christ you know them and you can’t know them without it affecting your daily life. Too many Christians are trying to live for God on their own if you know him he will move you to live for God he will never lighten up on you he will keep you.
What happens when you are in Christ?
Short answer: You become a new creature; old things pass away and all things become new.
▶ 5:21 Directed to her godliness. Now. Backed up by scripture if any man be in Christ now you got to understand he put the word in Christ right. If I am in the democratic party I believe what the democratic party said if I’m in the republican party I would believe what the republican party said back in Christ’s day if I was in the Pharisee religion I believe and acted according to the way the Pharisees did if I was in the Sadducees religion I would believe and act like the Sadducees did I am in them if you are in Christ you. Are a new creature. See there’s a transformation there’s a change all things are passed away the way you live before is gone.
▶ 6:25 Because you are in Christ you know Christ now you have experience eternal life through knowing him and you will become a new creature the old things are passed away all things are become new see that statement is backed up by scripture they’re directly proportional one to another and the more I pursue God and pursue Christ the better I’m going to be in this earth. Because it’s examined directly I don’t need to read a lot of secular books or anything if I pursue him and I pursue his word and keep attaining to his godly life his weight that he said to live. It’s going to change my regular life.
▶ 7:20 Hallelujah that’s why we need to keep praying keep worshiping keep reading the word in that write see what brings knowing God will maintain nothing God alright now in John I mean in Romans chapter 6 where he’s talking about water baptism our old man of sin is crucified with Christ the body of sin is destroyed that now we should not serve sin but walk in what newness of life a new creature we should walk in this world in newness of life and then newness of life is godliness that’s profitable and how many things all things. See when I get to know God.
Scripture in this part
2 Corinthians 5:17 (NKJV)
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
— 2 Corinthians 5:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 6:25Will God demand you live right?
Short answer: Yes. Knowing God will demand that you love your spouse, do no harm, and be faithful.
▶ 8:15 He will demand that I live right. When you get married he will demand that you love your spouse do no harm to them be faithful to them he will demand it. You’re gonna have kids he’s gonna demand you raise them and train them up in the ways of God. Are you there. Is it but when you break this relationship. Because of choices over here. You’re gonna mess up your marriage you’re gonna mess up raising your kids you’re gonna mess up your own personal life. Hallelujah and he promised you a profitable life that now is a valuable one and the life that is to come now.
What did Jesus tell the rich man about eternal life?
Short answer: If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.
▶ 9:17 We can back this up also by the ten commandments a rich man came to Jesus and said Lord what good thing shall I do to inherit eternal life and these people that don’t believe in works just happen they have to skirt this scripture with so many words and so many bending of scriptures and it just amazes me that anybody believes them what’s the subject when the rich man came to Christ say eternal life eternal life eternal life. What good thing must I do to obtain eternal life and folks if you don’t have eternal life all the rest is just religious nonsense. Are you there you know you can get saved from your sin all you want to you can believe in God all you want to if you don’t possess eternal life you’ve missed the whole point.
▶ 10:22 Could that be true yeah. Eternal life is the issue and so. Jesus said keep the commandments. Say keep the laws the very thing that fundamentalist say you don’t have to keep Jesus said keep them. Now we’re gonna believe the fundamentalist or we’re gonna believe the very mouth of Jesus Christ I suggest you believe the very mouth of Jesus Christ. Natalija. Didn’t he the final authority folks. Doesn’t matter what me mr. Barnes larry towns and a jim tom’s and believe what matters is what Jesus said to believe could that be an amen now.
Scripture in this part
Matthew 19:16-19 (NKJV)
Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?” So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” He said to Him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
— Matthew 19:16-19 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:17How do we honor our parents?
Short answer: By honoring and respecting them in the Lord and following the teachings they gave you in the Lord.
▶ 11:20 So. Jesus went through them they went through them honor your parents in the Lord if you really know God you’re going to honor and respect your parents in the Lord that means parents that are parents that brought you up in the Bible in the ways of God they were teaching you they were in the Lord see in Christ. Are you there now there’s some bad parents and you don’t want to follow them. But if you really know God you’re going to respect your parent you’re gonna listen to them when they are telling you right stuff and I mean not just through adolescence. But on to adulthood when you become an adult and you had parents that raised you in the Lord you.
▶ 12:18 The best thing you can do to honor them and respect them is to follow the teachings that they gave you in the Lord now that’s a powerful statement folks and so many Christians because they only believe they’re Christians they only believe they have eternal life they disrespect their parents. Hallelujah. Faith without works is dead. So that’s gonna change you. You know I didn’t like a lot of things my parents taught me and and made me do when I was growing up but they were all right things I just did I just didn’t want any confinement and when I got saved immediately. The Holy Spirit changed my outlook on my parents.
▶ 13:15 Why. Because you can’t know God without it affecting this natural life amen. Happening have you ever had to go back and apologize to your parents and ask them to forgive you yeah that’s a good sign you know the Lord you. See action behind the word don’t kill don’t murder. Jesus said if you hate your brother you’re a murderer and no murderer has to eternal life that’s what John said in the epistle of John no murderer has eternal life so if you hate people you don’t have eternal life I don’t care if you how much you believe I don’t care how much faith you got you don’t have it turn alive when you have hatred when you despise other people especially fellow Christians.
▶ 14:10 Woo if you came for nothing you got you should have got that you. See the problem is folks we don’t know God we’re being taught out there just to believe in him. But to know him directly affects this life I’m going to love and treat my wife right because I know him and he demands it how. I’m gonna respect the spouse I’m gonna respect my kids and I’m I’m gonna love my kids and Christians. If you don’t love your brother yeah. Yeah. It’s not your it’s not your decision.
Scripture in this part
Ephesians 6:1-2 (NKJV)
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise:
— Ephesians 6:1-2 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:20Must you decide who’s your brother?
Short answer: No, just love them; love your brother even if he acts as an enemy.
▶ 15:05 To judge if they’re your brother or not you’re to just love them and if they are your brother that’s an enemy then you love your brother as an enemy one way or another love works and not right yeah you don’t have to eat with your enemy you just got to help them when they’re donkeys in the ditch and yeah and now right yeah. Now. No immoral sex if there’s no immoral sex how can Christians agree that homosexuals are born that way you can’t if you know him. You’re not going to agree on any kind of gender change you’re not going to agree on anything but a male is a male and a female is a female can I hear an amen why because you know him.
Scripture in this part
Matthew 5:44 (NKJV)
But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
— Matthew 5:44 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:05Why is false witness so serious?
Short answer: Christians attack others over some fantasy doctrine and get people to believe lies; he has seen disasters come to those who hurt real Christians.
▶ 16:00 And he compels you to keep his word keep his laws. Stealing. False witness oh man is this a big one. Every year I deal with this in the homes with churches. Christian marriages blaming a spouse without any evidence of the fact and they get their little group to follow them they dream up these things the Lord told me you’re committing adultery or you know yeah you’re doing this you’re doing that well where’s the evidence. Where is the proof. Churches split in America every day.
▶ 17:00 Somewhere. Because some Christian gets a hair in their nose of some stupid doctrine some. Fantasy belief. And they start attacking and they get people to believe the next thing you know you got a group leaving are you there. When I was working with eagles nest down in santa ana. He had a split in his church now he had over a thousand members when he had a split 400 people left. That’s a big one when you’re little you have little groups leaving but this thing this this this lacking to know God to love your brother and not bear false witness not come up with created things in fantasies are you there and the Bible says mark those who cause division among you and don’t have anything to do with them a lot of our problems is we still associate with those that cause the division why because we don’t know him.
▶ 18:25 Hello [unclear] we believe but we don’t know him. False witness is a horrible one folks I’ve seen big disasters come to people for messing around and hurting real Christians. Yes gossip is horrible slander is horrible it’s in the same group as any other law you just don’t do it all right. Covet now when this guy came to Jesus Jesus quoted the last five laws and he left out covet a desire for something that is so strong you’ll do anything to get it as the Bible says with your neighbor’s wife your neighbor’s spouse or whatever your neighbor possesses or whatever you’ll do anything to get it it’s called the love of money is the root of all evil the love of things above God is the source of evil of harm and so when Jesus said to him you know you haven’t kept the covet law he went away sorrowful he rejected eternal life for one commandment 1.
Scripture in this part
Exodus 20:16 (NKJV)
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
— Exodus 20:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 16:00What does he say about sexual immorality?
Short answer: He says homosexuals are rejecting eternal life over one commandment, and criticizes transgender teaching in public schools.
▶ 19:49 The homosexuals are rejecting eternal life over 1 commandment sexual immorality these transgender people that the public is allowed to teach is it legal and it’s it’s it’s real they’re rejecting. God’s word. And you work six days it doesn’t say draw welfare for six days doesn’t say beg for six days it says work say the word work well yes when we taught you the last times you got to prepare yourself in the field you either got you got to get an education and you got to get on-the-job training or you got to you know get training with some company like a contractor does to learn the the business and then you start your own business you see apprenticeship or if you want to be a lawyer or a doctor you got to go to college there’s no way of getting around it you got to go to a specialized school the problem with the millennials is they went to school without any specialized degree.
What leads to success?
Short answer: He says get an education and job skill and save sex for marriage, and you have a high chance of success.
▶ 21:04 They come out and they got a two hundred two hundred thousand dollar debt and they got no job skill are you there and I’ve been telling you that for over twenty years it doesn’t do a hill of beans worth of good to go to college if you don’t come out with a job skill you might as well as get in and learn from a journeyman something and specialize in air conditioning or autumn it can’t all these things radiology all these things are not college degree stuff and you can make a living on them can I hear an amen but Christians when they don’t know him. We’ll jump into marriage too quick. And. Then they have big time marriage problems have a babies too quick we showed you last week you.
▶ 22:03 Have an eighty five percent chance of being successful if you. Get an education. Get a job skill save sex for marriage and babies having babies so after you’re twenty years old you have an eighty five percent chance of being financially successful. So the secular people have finally figured out the Bible’s right yeah and they wanting to give credit to the Bible but I’ve been teaching that for 56 years why because I knew him and he showed me his word he showed me his laws and I could tell people this is the way to live in this life successfully and the ones that followed it they were successful.
Do all roads lead to God?
Short answer: No. He says Presidents Obama and Bush both declared all roads lead to the same God, but the first commandment is no other gods.
▶ 22:58 Are you there now. First commandment is no other gods. President Obama and president Bush both publicly declared that all roads lead to the same God that’s not what it says in law number one I am the Lord your God that brought you out of the land of bondage Egypt have no other gods before me there is no other God the Lord thy God is one God there are no other gods that’s why when I sing the days of Elijah I don’t like singing there’s no God like Jehovah there is no God but Jehovah period. Though I’m being lucky is that an amen that’s the scriptures.
Scripture in this part
Exodus 20:3 (NKJV)
“You shall have no other gods before Me.
— Exodus 20:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 22:58What about images and icons?
Short answer: No idols, no images; he says the Catholic and Orthodox churches can’t justify icons.
▶ 23:55 No idols there’s no way the catholic church and the orthodox church can justify idols an icon no way he plainly says no idols no images in heaven above earth beneath or whatever are you there. None zero even the cross you don’t bow down to. You bow down to the one that died on the cross is that an amen. No. You cannot take that God’s name in vain vain is worthless no value you see Isaiah said it clearly there were virgins who came and said we will wear our own apparel we would take care of ourselves as what they’re saying yeah.
▶ 24:54 We don’t want a relationship with you we just want your name. We want to be called a Christian so we take Christ’s name and we live. Against his commandments and it is worthless. Valueless see down here it is valuable to be godly up here if you’re not godly it is valueless it is worthless to take God’s name if you’re not going to live godly is that an amen is that an amen now if you want to use it to profanity and in ugh and a gd this and g they do that that’s okay too but the real truth is you’re saying you know Christ and you’re not keeping his commandments it’s worthless oh.
Scripture in this part
Exodus 20:4-5 (NKJV)
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,
— Exodus 20:4-5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 23:55Should believers assemble?
Short answer: Yes. We are God’s sanctuary; forsake not the assembling of yourselves together.
▶ 26:00 Yeah. Now. Keep the Sabbath six days you work seven day you keep a Sabbath and also the feast the five feast of Israel firstfruits. Pentecost all of those feasts and I can’t even remember the first one Passover yeah you keep them all right and you keep them holy you don’t take the day off to sin. Are you that you don’t take the day off to break the commandments you keep that holy and in Leviticus he makes it even more clear he says and you respect God’s sanctuary on the Sabbath as when they assembled together.
▶ 26:54 You see at the temple or at the synagogue. We are God’s sanctuary and see this backs up what it says in Hebrews forsake not the assembling of yourself together even the more so as you see the day approaching. Provoking one another to love and to good works see encouraging one another to live godly. Live right. That’s what the assembly of the church is supposed to be for through prophecy so songs through prayer it all should be building up people to live godly to love do no harm to others and to do good works didn’t Jesus say let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works not you just talking about but they see in your daily life that now is your good works and brings glory to the father amen.
Scripture in this part
Hebrews 10:24-25 (NKJV)
And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
— Hebrews 10:24-25 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 26:54What did he see when his parents got saved?
Short answer: At four or five he saw them baptized and going to church, enjoying God; his hard-working dad was refreshed by touching God.
▶ 28:06 Now. When I was a boy my parents got saved and I can remember even though I was only four or five years old I can remember to this day they were getting baptized and they had like a white sheet on them or something in the kentucky oh yeah okay in the kentucky river I didn’t know a hill of beans what was going on but I noticed immediately there was a big change in my father. Number one he quit smoking every morning I can hear him hacking huh. Going to the toilet you know in a few months no hacking I. Remember gagging when he smoked in the house I mean ii hate cigarette smoke yeah man it was so nice to be in a house with no gagging.
▶ 29:07 Now see I didn’t understand it as a boy but I saw the end result and they started going to church. And time went by and let me tell you they would go to those country folks in my dad dad worked in the coal mine and you know he shoveled coal all day. Hard work after walking out of a hollow to get a ride and walk him back in at the end of the day the hard-working man. Yet. He would come home clean up and go to church and take us with him I did a lot of sleeping on the pews they didn’t have pews benches or something ain’t happy nothing comfortable about it. And these people would sing you know just over in the glory land I was John and the body ain’t over yeah it’s singing no victory and I mean and I.
▶ 30:16 Didn’t understand it as a kid but these people were enjoying what they were doing and we can laugh at him all they want yeah there were a few that wallowed on the ground. All right but what it was is that presence of God would come and they would. Reinitiate their connection with knowing God and that tarred coal miner. Was so refreshed. So ignited and so strengthened by what people mocked and laughed at. Because they showed some emotion when the presence of God came I didn’t understand all this until the sixties when God saved me and my I got old you know we can laugh at people we can mock them and mostly it’s because we don’t know.
▶ 31:20 They know him and there is a response when you know him. And my hard-working dad would get to refresh through the week by going to church and touching God God would honor their activity. Yeah there were some people that did some extreme things folks it’s gonna happen no matter you don’t call. Worshiping mary a statue an extreme thing that’s extreme that’s a lot more extreme than somebody rolling on the ground. Hallelujah. When you don’t know him it’s easy to mock it’s easy to laugh it’s easy as a pic but when you know him you’re going to respond its directly going to affect your life here.
▶ 32:26 Hallelujah. Do we still need to assemble today in our assembly should we be provoking one another to love and to do good works yes the Bible is clear on this stuff and there’s so many Christians of your going to church I don’t need to go to church yes you do the Bible says and when you know him you’re gonna be wanna be in the assembly of his people and meet with him and be encouraged to do good and to love each other yes give God a clap often. First John 2:3. By this we know that we know him if we.
▶ 33:20 Keep his commandments see I told you this statement is backed up by the word you can’t know God without it affecting you to keep his word and to keep his word you got to read his word and you got to study his word and you got to go to Bible studies and you got to pray and you got a worship. But the only way you know that you know him if you have a burning desire in you to keep the commandments of God is that Bible and when you don’t know him and it’s only faith and it’s only belief and it’s only grace you have no compulsion to keep the word of God you will mistreat your spouse you will mistreat your kids you will miss trig other Christians and you will say you’re the one that’s right.
▶ 34:15 You will justify the homosexuals you will justify the transgenders. You will justify a lot of things because you believe you have something and you haven’t possessed it let me give you a last example. Jesus told the disciples to be filled with the Holy Spirit. Did you get that statement in that trip he said yeah go in teheran journey you’re gonna be filled with the Holy Spirit Jesus said the Holy Spirit is with you. But on that day it shall be what and you whoa there’s a difference here these people that I meet and they have the Holy Ghost by faith if you have the Holy Ghost by faith you don’t have the Holy Ghost.
▶ 35:10 Because when that Holy Ghost comes in you. It’s going to change you and you’re gonna know it’s in you amen. Hallelujah. That baptism of the Holy Ghost yeah you can have the spirit of God with you we are the temple of God. But when you give the Holy Ghost folks you got it when you get it you can’t have it by faith you have to experience it amen faith without works is dead saying you have the Holy Ghost without really having the Holy Ghost is dead. There’s no empowerment you shall receive power when the Holy Ghost comes upon you.
How do we know that we know Him?
Short answer: If we keep His commandments; when we mess up we correct it.
▶ 36:09 How do we know we know him because something in us drives us to keep the laws of God the word of God and when we mess up we correct it we change it amen and you cannot know him without a change in this natural life he’s gonna make you love your spouse he’s gonna make you love your children and raised him right he’s gonna make you love your neighbor he’s gonna make you love your brother and sister. And why do we have such wreckage and American christianity divorce and and dysfunctional homes and the rejection of responsibility of raising kids because many Christians don’t know him they believe copeland and joyce myers and all these preachers that say it’s just simply faith if I just believe.
▶ 37:08 And they don’t know him so they don’t have that power of direct proportion in their life. Now there. We lash others that don’t agree with us with our tongue and then we wipe our mouths that I’ve done nothing wrong just like the harlot in prague and Proverbs she commits adultery and she wiped your mouth nothing wrong that’s where America is right now in many areas of christianity they don’t agree that it’s wrong why because they’ve been told that eternal life is by faith only and not a meeting with God will you know him that compels you to keep the word of God.
Scripture in this part
1 John 2:3-4 (NKJV)
Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
— 1 John 2:3-4 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 36:09More questions this message answers
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