These Four Recipients: full transcript and answers

▶ 0:00 We’re going to continue with the third promise. Remember, we showed you the first three promises, and the last one was the baptism of the Holy Ghost. God promised that, and it plays an integral part in us partaking of the divine nature. And this third promise is so vast and broad I have to bring it in segments, and so instead of this week showing you it was a promise and all that, we’re going to look a little further into this baptism of the Holy Ghost, and we’re going to look at it this way: the baptism of the Holy Spirit and its effect on four recipients. I’m going to bring you four recipients in the New Testament of the baptism of the Holy Ghost, which is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, which is being filled with the Holy Spirit. They’re all synonymous terms.

▶ 1:01 Okay, and we’re not going to go back to Azusa Street, we’re not going to go back to the 1968 charismatic revival and get four recipients out of there. We’re going to go back to the Bible. Ephesians 5:18 says, “Do not be drunk with wine, wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit.” You know, if Christians would not twist that Scripture to say, “Well, what he means is, if I drink and I don’t get intoxicated, I’m fine.” It isn’t saying that at all. What it really says: “Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess.” Excess means it will lead you to wrong behavior, loose behavior. Wine will distort your judgment, alcohol will, and so you can’t use that to justify drinking at all. But his comparison is with the wine because wine changes your personality, am I right? Yes. Yeah, it affects you. So he illustrates it with the wine because the Holy Spirit (be filled, be baptized with the Holy Spirit) will affect you. It will change the way you behave, the way you speak, and so all of us are supposed to be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

▶ 2:30 Now, in this generation, when I came to Christ, everybody is quarreling about the Holy Ghost. You know, in the ‘50s the Spirit-filled people were considered the church on the other side of the railroad tracks. You know, “You don’t go there, those people are weird, they’re a cult, man.” And then God came in ‘68, poured out His Spirit on the Catholics, Presbyterians, the Lutherans. He just did it, and they spoke in tongues, and they made all the same mistakes that the Pentecostals made, but they wouldn’t take the name Pentecost. They used the word charismatic. They didn’t want to identify with those across-the-track church, so they changed the name to charismatic, but it was the same thing. And, uh, then you’re fundamentalist and you’re Catholic, and everybody, they fight over this baptism of the Holy Ghost, quarrel and argue. And so through this we want to get rid of the argument, and we want to show you the power of the Holy Ghost.

▶ 3:32 Okay, through these four, first we’re going to show you that there was four recipients. Number one, Jesus Christ Himself, in Luke 4:1: “Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost.” A dove came down in the form of the Holy Ghost, or the Holy Ghost came down in the form of the dove, and, uh, He didn’t speak in tongues, okay. He didn’t pass out in the water, He didn’t get slain in the Spirit, He didn’t even speak the mighty works of God. He went immediately into the wilderness to be tested. Wow. Nobody likes that sign of the Holy Ghost. “Give me the tongues, man. Give me the prophecy. Give me the good stuff. I don’t want no testing.” But anyway, that is one of our recipients of the baptism of the Holy Ghost when they got it.

▶ 4:20 Okay, our next one is John the Baptist, Luke 1:15. “John shall drink neither wine nor strong drink.” Here again is wine and strong drink. John didn’t drink it. I wish people would line up with John instead of twisting the Scriptures, they do, to promote something that’s destroying families, destroying lives, and that is alcohol and drugs and marijuana and all that. It has a destructive end. You know, whether you like it or not, the Bible does not approve of intoxication of any kind, and that’s a big amen, because God isn’t for anything that destroys you and alters your personality to be bad. Okay, “he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost from his mother’s womb.” Okay, so when he was born, he’s filled with the Holy Ghost. Again, he didn’t speak in tongues, he didn’t get slain in the Spirit, he didn’t speak the mighty works of God. He just got filled with the Holy Ghost. And I know us Pentecostals, us charismatics, say, “Well, that’s because before the Holy Ghost was poured out.” Well, it’s still the same Spirit, and all through the Old Testament people were filled with the Holy Ghost. It’s just God in the last days was going to give it to all flesh, not just the select people. Are you there? It’s the same Holy Spirit.

▶ 5:53 Now, the next person is Stephen, “a man full of faith and the Holy Ghost,” Acts 6:5. See, there’s no record that he spoke in tongues when he got the Holy Ghost. There’s no record that he didn’t. And this is the big argument right now: tongues, no tongues, and the news media makes fun of you if you speak in tongues and all the rest, and, uh, I mean, the natural people attack tongues, okay? People that don’t believe in God, what I mean. And then you have Saul, Acts 9:17, whose name was changed to Paul the apostle: “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight,” God blinded him, “and be filled with the Holy Ghost.” Now, there is no indication that Paul spoke in tongues when he got filled with the Holy Ghost. The Pentecostals go, “He speaks in tongues more than y’all.” Yes, he does. He did. But that doesn’t mean he spoke in tongues when he first got it. You see, we all like to justify our opinion instead of going to the Bible and just rationally letting the Holy Ghost reveal truth to you. Amen.

▶ 7:22 Yes, so these four people were filled with the Holy Spirit. Okay, so let’s see what they had in common. These four recipients had one thing in common, regardless of when they were filled with the Holy Ghost or how they were filled with the Holy Ghost. They had one thing in common. And actually, they had another thing in common that I preached to you many times before: they had unity. Yes. On the day of Pentecost they were in unity; the new ones that come in were in unity. There was a strong effect of flowing together and unifying. And do we have unity in the church in America? No way. And everybody says they’re filled with the Holy Ghost. Everybody I meet says they’re filled with the Holy Ghost. Let’s see what these four recipients had in common.

▶ 8:26 You’ll notice I got “forgiveness” up there with a piece of paper going into the trash bin. We throw a piece of paper into the trash bin because we made a mistake on it, it can’t be restored, so we wad up the paper and throw it away. It’s taken to the dump. That’s what forgiveness is. You throw away the mistake, you take it to the dump, and you never get it back again. Forgiveness is forgiving and forgetting. Pardoning, you know, no condemnation, no guilt. I pardon you, I pardon myself, and I’m not bringing that piece of paper back out of the trash. Can I get an amen? So, as you know by now, the common thing they had was forgiveness. The Holy Ghost empowered them to forgive, something that all the argument doesn’t even bring out. The fundamentalists don’t bring it out, the Pentecostals don’t bring it out, charismatics don’t bring it out, the Catholics don’t bring it out, but this Holy Ghost, all four of these people were empowered to forgive.

▶ 9:49 Mark 1:4-5: John the Baptist came baptizing and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sin. Yes. John the Baptist confronted sin. He told Herod, “It is not scripturally lawful for you to have your brother’s wife,” because Herod had divorced his wife, and him and his brother’s wife had an affair, and they got remarried, and John the Baptist said that is scripturally wrong. But see, he also gave them a way of correcting the problem: confessing their sin, letting Jesus forgive them of their sin and cleanse them from that. And that doesn’t mean he had to go back and get his old wife; it just means he needed to straighten out his life from that day forward. Could that be an amen? So confrontation without a forgiving heart is not going to solve anybody’s problem.

▶ 10:52 Then we have Luke 23:34, where Jesus said, “Father, forgive them,” when they killed Him on a cross, “for they know not what they do.” See, He was filled with the Holy Ghost, and He was empowered to forgive. He was an innocent man, and the religious people and the government killed Him when He had no crime, and He forgave them. And the Bible says who is our example? Jesus. Why do we lift up pastors and popes and priests when the Bible plainly says Jesus Christ is our example? We’re to model after Him and Him only. Could that be an amen? Paul even made it plain: “Follow me as I follow Christ.” In other words, if I don’t follow Christ, don’t follow me, and don’t blame me. Your job is to follow Christ. Amen.

▶ 11:57 Now, Acts 7:60: Stephen said, “Lord...” They stoned him for just simply preaching a truthful message. He preached an excellent message by the Holy Spirit, and when he nailed them down to their sin, they got mad at him. See, he confronted them with a heart of forgiveness, but they didn’t like his confrontation of their religiousness and their hypocrisy, and so they stoned him. And Stephen saw Christ in heaven standing at the right hand of the Father and said, “Lord, forgive this sin. Don’t lay this sin to their charge.” Isn’t that powerful? And my fundamentalist brethren, my Pentecostal brethren, my charismatic brethren, my Catholic brethren, they all say they got the Holy Ghost, and they won’t forgive one another. Wow. They won’t even associate with one another, and they all claim to have this Holy Ghost, with or without tongues.

▶ 13:28 Now, here is the divine nature of Christ, another divine nature of Christ. Okay, 1 John 1:9: “If we confess our sins, He (Jesus) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” Jesus’s divine nature is forgiveness. Pardon you without any guilt, without any punishment. That’s His divine nature. And to get you to forgive (to get you to, I mean, give forgiveness) and to get you to confess, there has to be a confrontation. There has to be, “You are wrong. Your sexual immorality is wrong. But if you confess and admit it, turn from it, I will forgive you, no guilt, no punishment, and I’ll cleanse you, I’ll free you from that sin.” That is His promise. The pope can’t free you from sin, the priest can’t free you, I can’t free you from sin, the evangelist can’t free you from sin. We are all voices trying to bring you to Christ, who can forgive you and free you from sin. Could that be an amen? Yes. But we begin to exalt these people as if they have some special power and authority. They don’t. They’re just messengers.

▶ 15:02 Okay, Matthew 9:6: “The Son has power on earth to forgive sins.” You don’t have to wait to go to heaven to be forgiven and become a mature Christian. Christ has power right now, while you’re on earth, to forgive you, to pardon you, get rid of your guilt, get rid of your punishment, no punishment. He will throw your sins into the wastebasket. The Bible says as far as the east is from the west, He will put your sins away, and they never meet. Okay, John 1:29: “Behold, the Lamb of God, which takes away the sin of the world.” This word “takes away” is so powerful. It is removing guilt, removing punishment, by punishment. Now, the Catholics have it wrong here, and I have a right to confront wrong, but I don’t have a right to hate Catholics and look down on Catholics and not fellowship with Catholics. I don’t have that right. But I have a right to address wrong. Yes.

▶ 16:25 Okay, there’s no penance you can do to merit forgiveness of sin. What this word means, and it’s obviously, Jesus is the Lamb that takes away. He’s the one that removes the punishment by Him being punished on the cross, beaten, crucified, shedding His blood. Through Him being punished, He removed your guilt and He removed your punishment. Amen. Yes, and the Scriptures are very clear on that. So me beating my back and crawling on my hands and knees isn’t going to do anything. Me accepting His punishment for my sin does wonders, and it works. Okay, the other meaning of “takes away” is to cause a sin to be neither charged nor punished. Okay, and that’s our end of it. We can’t punish people, or we can’t punish ourself, but we can pardon people from the guilt and the punishment that they deserve for hurting us. We can forgive them, we can take it away. That’s the divine nature of Christ. Amen.

▶ 17:55 Now, Mark 11:25 is so, so clear on forgiveness. “When you stand praying” (and every one of us prays, the Catholics, the Protestants, the Pentecostals, you know, everybody prays, we all believe in prayer), “when you stand praying, forgive.” Ooh. The condition that you have a right to come to the throne of grace to obtain mercy to help in your time of need is forgiving. “If you have ought against anybody, forgive them,” that is you and yourself. It could be you just thinking they did you wrong. They might not have done you wrong at all. I encounter a lot of perception hurt. They weren’t really hurt by that person; that person that was hurt perceived they did or said something that the people didn’t really do or say. “That your Father also which is in heaven may forgive your trespasses.” Oh, so there is a condition. These people say unconditional love, unconditional love, unconditional love. The Bible has a condition on things, and here the condition is, you forgive and God will forgive you. “But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.”

▶ 19:40 Wow. So all of a sudden it’s vital. It is a high priority for me to learn how to what? Forgive. Has God got your attention? See, forgiveness is a very high thing in God. Hallelujah. God is no respecter of persons. When they ask Jesus here in this chapter, you know, “Well, how many times do I forgive my brother?” and the answer was seven times a day. How many times do I forgive a day? Seven times. Okay, and later He says something else, as we will see now. Look at this, this is very important. Revelation 2:21: “I gave...” This is talking about the self-appointed prophetess in the church who is prophesying that sexual immorality is okay and eating things sacrificed to idols (idolatry) is okay. She was a self-appointed prophetess. She was speaking these things, and no one was correcting her.

▶ 20:55 Sexual immorality in the Bible is wrong, whether it’s homosexuality, incest, sex outside of marriage, sex outside of your marriage if you’re married, sex with children, sex with animals, it’s all wrong, the Bible says, and she was teaching it’s okay. Are there Christians and churches teaching that homosexuality is okay today? Yes. And are they saying adultery and fornication’s okay by not saying it’s wrong? Yeah. They don’t get up and say it’s okay, they just never say it’s wrong. That’s not confronting the sinner. So Jesus comes and He says, “I gave her space to repent. I gave her a period of time to repent, and she repented not.” And so people need what? Space, a period of time to get their act together, and if we forgive them, why are we so hard on them, and why do we keep bringing up their hurt to us, them hurting us, if we really forgive them? If we’re really giving them space, how many are glad God gave you space to repent? I am really glad. I was a hard knucklehead. I was raised in a Christian home and I rejected the Word and Christ and everything. I was hardheaded as they come. I’m glad He gave me space. And so we should give people what space we need to give the Catholic space to change. We need to give the, you know, the fundamentalist, the Pentecostalist, in their mistakes, we need to give them what? Time to change. God does.

▶ 23:00 Shouldn’t we, your wife, your husband, in the home, especially in this Christmas season? The home just gets attacked, trying to live up to some kind of cultural thing of buying all kinds of presents and living up to some kind of cultural ideal of Christmas. The pressure comes on, and, ah, how many know husbands and wives should give each other time to change? Yes, through forgiveness. See, through forgiveness you can do that. Now, let me remind you that at the flood God gave the people 100 years, with Noah preaching righteousness, to change. Okay, only three people got converted during that flood, if you count Noah’s children and his wife, seven people got converted, but I’m assuming that his kids were raised and they were believers, but if they weren’t, then you got seven people converted. That’s all. 100 years for seven people. God gave them space, and then He brought the punishment. Okay.

▶ 24:33 Lot, Sodom. Lot went down to Sodom, and so for several years while Lot lived in Sodom, the Bible says that he was living righteously. He was an example to those people, and they knew, but they didn’t listen to Lot. And they didn’t listen to Lot when he went and said they’re going to destroy the city. His sons-in-law laughed, and his daughters laughed at him and said, “You’ve got to be joking.” But when the angels came, they only have a few hours. And so the point is, we don’t know if we got several years, a lifetime, or a few hours, so we need to what? Buck up, just listen. Then you got, of course, Israel: 1,000 years God promised if they disobeyed Him they would go into captivity. It took a thousand years to fulfill that, or just under. And then Judas, who was the thief that Jesus Christ picked to be on His staff, His ministry staff. Judas did miracles, Judas cast out demons, Judas preached the gospel, and people repented and came to Christ, and Christ gave him three and a half years to repent, and he didn’t. He was a thief. He never changed, and then he got the punishment. He killed himself.

▶ 25:59 And a lot of people kill themselves because they can’t handle their bad choices. They come to a place where they just kill themselves. Okay, you got that? We need to give people space. You need to give yourself space. You know, if you’re not a perfect Christian yet, start working on it and give yourself some space, but don’t take a lifetime. You know, if you want to attain something, you’ve got to get in and get involved with it. Amen. But we need to forgive ourself. A lot of people cannot forgive themselves, and we need to give ourselves space to change and grow into that divine nature.

▶ 26:55 Now, how can I forgive when it hurts so much? One of the biggest sources I find in dealing with people why they can’t forgive is because they let themselves be hurt. They get hurt, they get emotionally affected, and when you get emotionally involved, bombed, truth goes out the door, the Scriptures go out the door, and your emotions start running your life. Now, that was a good statement. You see, and so we justify our accusations and our hatred and our verbal attacks and our physical attacks on the person that hurt us because we’re hurt. Hallelujah. So here’s Paul, our fourth candidate, and his approach to forgiveness. Our fourth baptism of the Holy Ghost [unclear]. Ephesians 4:32: “Be kind one to another.” Wow, even when they hurt me.

▶ 28:32 Didn’t Jesus say turn the other cheek, go the extra mile? Didn’t He say if you only forgive those that forgive you and treat those that treat you right, you’re no better than the publicans, because that’s what they do, and God wants us to be above that? He empowers us to be above that. “Kind, tenderhearted,” compassion, in a [unclear] care about their condition. Yes, they hurt us, but we go beyond the hurt, and we want to help them because we care about their condition that brought them to hurt us. Wow, that was good. Are you guys getting this? And this is what the Holy Ghost does for you. This is much higher than tongues or no tongues, much higher than miracles or no miracles. This has an effect in your home, your daily life, and it’s very powerful: forgiving one another.

▶ 29:53 And then he tells us what level of forgiveness we are to forgive one another, and that level is, “as God in Christ forgave you,” as Christ forgave you. I want you to forgive what? Not my level of forgiveness, His level of forgiveness. Now, I am glad Jesus forgave me, and I am glad He gave me space to correct my errors as a young Christian while I was growing. I’m glad of that, and I’m glad He revealed it to me, so I didn’t excommunicate myself from Christianity while I was growing and changing from fault to fault. But we’re to forgive on the standard and level that Christ forgave us. In other words, if you want Christ to forgive you of anything, then you’ve got to give that forgiveness to those that hurt you. Wow. Now, how many, right quick, would say that’s going to take some empowerment by the Holy Ghost? I look in the mirror, and this guy is not going to do that. “You smack me, I’m going to smack you back. But you attack me verbally, I’m going to put you up verbally back.” So we need what? The empowerment of the Holy Ghost to do this, and that is what He promised. He promised a baptism of power to be witnesses unto Him.

▶ 31:32 Colossians 3:13: “Bearing with and forgiving one another.” Bearing with, putting up with. And you know, you’ve got to put up with some offenses, you’ve got to put up with some errors, you’ve got to put up with some mistakes in your marriage, and with the right attitude of being tenderhearted and compassionate. Give that person time. Yes. You say, “You know what, you did hurt me,” but you don’t carry the hurt. You forgive. And for them to find forgiveness, they’ve got to confess and admit it. For you to find forgiveness, you’ve got to confess your hurt. You don’t like this person because of what they did to you, but you forgive them, even if they don’t ask you to forgive them. You forgive them. Jesus died before we asked Him to forgive us, isn’t that right? True. Isn’t that right? So why are you waiting for the person to change before you forgive them? Christ forgave us while we were still, the Bible says, in Romans— Galatians, “dead in our sins,” dead in trespasses and sins. “While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” He forgave us, He did what was necessary to help us in our situation. Isn’t that good? Amen.

▶ 32:57 And the baptism of the Holy Ghost does this. “If anyone has a complaint against another, even as Christ forgave you, so you also must forgive them.” Now, that is powerful, folks. Now, I tell you, if you want a sign of the baptism of the Holy Ghost, here’s a good one. Could that be an amen? Now, Matthew 6:12: “Forgive us our debts,” right in the Lord’s Prayer, “as we forgive our debtors.” Then He goes on to say in verse 15, “If you don’t forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.” Now, that’s a powerful statement. We want God to forgive us, we say the Lord’s Prayer, but we don’t go down below and see what Christ said about that. If Dave Kincer doesn’t forgive people that hurt him, that do him wrong, then God is not going to forgive Dave Kincer of the things he’s doing wrong that hurt other people. And God, and here is your clarity on once saved always saved.

▶ 34:16 One of the clarities: when a believer stops forgiving, God won’t forgive him. You see, you can’t just come up with statements: “When saved, I’ll be saved, hallelujah, nothing can pluck us out of the Father’s hand, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, I can live any way I want. Hallelujah.” No. Here is a direct statement against “once saved, always saved.” Do you see it? See, he once was forgiven, he once was saved, but if he don’t forgive, God won’t forgive him. Now he’s not saved. Hallelujah. Yeah, see, you need answers out there, and there’s other answers for this “once saved, always saved.” This is just another one.

▶ 35:06 Okay, Matthew 18:21: “How often shall my brother sin against me?” Now, we showed you the seven times in a day here. Jesus said, of course this guy’s thinking, “You know, seven times. You know, how often should I forgive him? Till seven times?” So he repeats what Christ said before, and Christ, knowing his sneaky little heart, says, “No, seven times seventy.” Wow, that’s a lot of forgiveness. Amen. See, forgiveness keeps me in a right attitude. Forgiveness, by responding right, keeps me from a bad attitude. I don’t want to see that person hurt, I want them to change, so I respond different. Instead of attacking them back, I try to show them a way out of hurting people. Are you there? Now, we’re not talking about murderers, and, you know, come on.

▶ 36:23 Now here we go, this is the real kicker. In Matthew 18, Jesus gives them a parable of the kingdom of heaven. He likens the kingdom of heaven unto a certain king which took account of his servants, and one owed him $10,000, and, uh, he called the servant in to pay his debt, and the servant pleaded with him and says, “You know, give me a little more time, give me some space, and I’ll pay it back.” And the Lord was so moved with compassion for his servant that he says, “I tell you what, I’ll just forgive the debt. There’s no guilt, no punishment, you don’t have to pay it back. It’s done. Go and live.” The servant went out and immediately finds someone that owes him $10. I’m converting that over to up-to-date money in case you, uh, are wondering what’s going on. So this guy owes him 10 bucks, and he, the one who was forgiven by the king, demanded that this guy pay him his 10 bucks, and the guy said, “I don’t have the money, give me some space and I’ll get you the money.” The guy said, “No way, I want my $10,” and he took him and had him arrested and put in jail and all that, and paid the price for his debt to him. And then through the grapevine word got back to the king that that guy you forgave held a guy accountable for 10 bucks when you forgave him of 10,000.

▶ 38:04 So the king brought that servant back in. Are we servants of God? Yeah. I want you to understand who He’s talking to. He’s talking to you. He brought him back into the king, the king brought him back in and says, “Hey, I forgave you a horrible debt, a deep debt, and then you go out and you hold someone accountable for offending you on a little thing.” Doesn’t a lot of us get offended over something really little? Yeah. He says, “Now, you wicked servant.” Is this a good servant? No. He says, “You wicked servant, you didn’t forgive. I forgave you all that debt because you asked it of me. Should not you also have had compassion on your fellow servant as I had pity on you? Should not have you treated the other people like I treated you?” How many know that’s a good statement? We should treat people like Christ has treated us, not like people are treating us. Amen.

▶ 39:25 “His lord was angry.” God got angry, Jesus got mad, and “delivered him to the tormentors till he should pay all that was due unto him.” Folks, paying all that’s due is eternal in the lake of fire. We don’t want that, so we need to what? Forgive. How many could use a little more forgiveness in your life? The rest of you, lying. You’re just flat-out lying. “So likewise,” now listen, He clarifies who He’s talking to, “so likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you,” the people He’s preaching to, “if you from your heart,” genuinely, with compassion and tenderheartedness, bearing up with one another, “if you from your heart do not all forgive, everyone his brother, their trespasses.” Wow.

▶ 40:40 So, I don’t like the Catholics, and the holy water, and their idols and all that. What is my responsibility in this thing? Forgive them, give them space, and share with them. And how can I share with them if I have nothing to do with them? You see, I hate these Pentecostals that roll around on the floor and shake and quake and slaying out the p— and all these guys on TV. All okay, they are making some mistakes, but what is our responsibility? Give them space and address the issue, and how you going to do that if you won’t have anything to do with these Pentecostals and charismatics? So we had four witnesses in the Bible. I gave you my witness of the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Tongues was a small part of that baptism. That baptism of love, that baptism to respond right, that part of the Holy Ghost was the thing that really got my attention, the part that drove me to the Bible to learn it and not just depend on people from the pulpit teaching me. That part of the Holy Ghost to love people, to stay in unity, even with Catholics. I preached in Catholic churches, I preached in Baptist churches, I had no offenses even though I disagreed with them.

▶ 42:26 And I wouldn’t go in there with my disagreements. I would go in there with other truths and get, let get them to know me. Are you with me? I have had a chance to witness to the number one guy of the American Baptist Association and the Southern Baptist Association in one meeting in California, because they saw in me something different than other Pentecostals and Spirit-filled people had, and that’s what they told me. “We’ve never met a Spirit person like you.” And my response was, “Well, you haven’t met any of them because you won’t have anything to do with them. I came to you, I got involved with you.” But I had the chance, from the Scriptures, they showed me their argument, and I had a chance, from the Scriptures, to show them their argument wasn’t Scriptural. Hallelujah.

▶ 43:25 One of those Baptist leaders was in the Assembly of God church, sought for the baptism of the Holy Ghost, he told me, didn’t get to speak in tongues, so he just felt it was a bunch of nonsense, and he left and went into the fundamental church. And I told him that’s one of the mistakes Pentecostals and charismatics make. They say the tongues is the only sign of the baptism of the Holy Ghost, and it is not. The Bible doesn’t say it’s the only sign, and it’s not the only sign. And the real signs are the character, the divine nature of God. Can you honestly say amen to that? And all of us can have it. It’s poured out on all flesh, but you get it when you get it, and if you don’t have it, you’ve got to admit you don’t have it to get it. Now, how many would like the promise of God to have the baptism of the Holy Ghost that brings you into the divine nature? Let me see your hand. Yeah, you see, a lot of people are so scared of the Holy Ghost now because of big arguments, they won’t seek the very thing that can revolutionize their life, their marriage, their church.