The Seventh Trumpet Part 1: full transcript and answers

▶ 0:00 We’re going to talk today about the seventh trumpet, but before we get into that, I want to show you just some basic charts. There’s so many of them, but here’s the premillennial view. You have here the rapture. They have somehow taken Thessalonians and turned it into an ambiguous Jesus coming in the heavenly, snatching up the church and leaving again without revealing Himself to the whole world, very ambiguous. But here is this, quote unquote, rapture. They got the energy crisis down here like that’s supposed to mean something. And they got the temple being built, good God, help us. They got the seals, three and a half years. They got the beast, the antichrist, coming up. Then you got the trumpets, and the seventh trumpet is when everything ends, and then they got the vials being poured out, three and a half more years, and then they got the millennium. The problem they got here is there’s two witnesses here, as you’ll see later, are doing some very powerful things, okay? That’s a real problem with this chart, as you will see. You got the man-child and the man-child’s mother with three and a half years, both of these are three and a half years, and then you got the beast rising up for three and a half years. Well, it adds up to about 14 years, not seven.

▶ 1:34 Okay, here’s another chart, and, uh, you can see here’s three and a half years. Revelation 8:9 through 11:15, you got the seals, then you got the trumpet, then you got the seventh trumpet, and again you got this problem with the Gentiles treading the courts of the temple of God for three and a half years. All right, then you got the two witnesses bringing out fire from their mouth for three and a half years and tormenting the people on earth, and then you got the man-child’s mother in the wilderness for three and a half years, and then you got the beast for three and a half years. How many do that add up to? 14 years. Okay. Now, you know, people can write charts all they want to. What is their end goal? That’s what I want to know. And like an author who wrote this book, you know, when you read a book, you should know who the author is and what they’re trying to get across. See, what’s their point? The whole point is somehow the church gets taken up and everybody else gets punished. That’s their goal. Somehow we deserve to be raised up before the second coming.

▶ 2:57 Before the second coming. Then you got the vials being poured out and so forth, and here’s the Messiah, second coming, and then you have the premillennium people, we’re going to reign and rule with Christ a thousand years. Then we got the amillennium people who say we, the whole thing is we’re reigning and ruling ever since Christ came, and then you got, I’m sorry, the amillennium, there is no millennium, and then you got the postmillennium people, and then the pre-tribulation rapture and the post-tribulation rapture and the mid-tribulation rapture and the prewrath rapture. [unclear] All these charts. So these are your basic couple of them charts. All right, now we’re going to deal with some three-and-a-half-year periods here. Okay, before we get into this seventh trumpet, the first one in Revelation 11:1 and 2. “It was given me a reed like a measuring rod, and the angel said, ‘Rise and measure the temple of God, measure the altar, and measure the people who worship there.’” Okay, I’m 5’10” and three-quarters. Is that what he’s talking about? Okay, the altar is x amount of, is that what he’s talking about? The temple is so big? This is why they got to have the temple rebuilt, because they’re trying to reduce this down to a natural temple. Are you with me? Stick with me here, please. Stick with me.

▶ 4:40 But it says don’t measure the outer court, because it’s going to be given to the Gentiles, the unbeliever, the nations of the world, the non-Christians, to tread for three and a half years. Okay, three and a half years, and they will, uh, tread the city of Jerusalem, the holy city, for three and a half years, or 42 months. Now, for your information, the natural temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Herod’s temple, the temple the Jews went to worship at, was destroyed already when this Revelation came. Got it? Are you with me? You have to use your brains today. Okay, that temple is not there, so he’s not talking about measuring that temple, is he? No. And then he says the holy city will be trodden by the Gentiles for three and a half years. Well, Jerusalem has been trodden by the Gentiles for 2,000 years. Yes, that’s a fact. We know that’s a fact. History has told us that they have been trying the church for 2,000 years by civil laws and limiting what Christians can and cannot do.

▶ 6:18 Now, Acts 7, verse 48. This is what we know, we know this, ain’t no ifs and buts about it. We know this truth: God dwells not in temples made with hands. Says it in Acts 7:48, Acts 17:24, and Isaiah 66:1. God does not dwell in temples made with hands. Well, why do we want to build a temple if God is dwelling, and temples made with hands? He already destroyed the Jewish temple that pointed to the church, the real temple of God. He had the Roman army destroy it because the Jews couldn’t leave it. And aren’t we like that today? We can’t leave how we were raised to serve God to really enter in to the fullness of God. Don’t we struggle with that? Yeah. So did the Jews, man. They worshiped that natural temple, and that natural temple, the Bible says, was plainly a shadow of things to come, doesn’t it say that? A pattern of what was to come.

▶ 7:40 Galatians 4:25, the new Jerusalem from above. Galatians 4:25: “Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is.” And for you Bible scholars, let me throw this out to you. If Sinai was in the peninsula that all the maps say, why does Paul say it was in Arabia? Could it be that the maps are wrong and Mount Sinai is actually in another place that the maps haven’t told us? Just giving you some tidbits, you Bible scholars that like to dig into things, and, you know, the Bible isn’t wrong, right? Yeah. Okay, just throwing that out. “And it corresponds to Jerusalem which now is,” that’s the natural city of Jerusalem, “and this natural city is in bondage with her children, but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.” Which is what? Which is what mother? Say the word “mother.” That word is going to come up again later in this message, okay? “The Jerusalem from above is free, and the mother of us all. We, like Isaac, are the children of promise,” not of the flesh, not the children of bondage but free, the free woman, the free Jerusalem. Are you with me? Hebrews 12:22: “You are coming to Mount Zion, unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn, to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant.”

▶ 9:40 So we are come to what? The new Jerusalem. The church. The church is the what? New Jerusalem. Are you out there? Now, this is hot stuff. This can open this Bible up to you when you read it. Now, if God has got a new Jerusalem, what do I care about Jerusalem over in Israel? Could that be an amen? What’s all this nonsense about Jerusalem and a temple, when God doesn’t dwell in temples made with hands, and God could care the least about the natural Jerusalem? He’s after a what? A new Jerusalem, the church. Church, that’s powerful. He’s after you. He’s interested in you. Revelation 3:12: “I will write upon him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, which is the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God.” Are you there? Isn’t this good? Revelation 21:2: “I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them and be their God.’” He’s not interested in a natural temple. He could care the least about this barn. He’s interested in you.

▶ 11:41 He wants to live with you. A temple is an abiding place, a home is a place of residence, abiding place. He wants to take up residence in your life. Wow. Revelation 21:10: “He showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, having the glory of God.” “I saw no temple there, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.” See, they dwell there. “There will in no wise enter into it anything that defiles, neither whatsoever works an abomination or makes a lie, but they which are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.” Folks, I don’t know about you, but the only way since Jesus came was to believe on Him for forgiveness of sin and get your name written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. This has been going on for 2,000 years, not three and a half. We have been the temple of God that He’s interested in. He got rid of the natural temple because He came and fulfilled what the natural temple pointed to and was a pattern of.

▶ 12:59 1 Corinthians 3:16: “You are the temple of God, and the Spirit of God dwells in you. If any man defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.” So, see, I can’t defile my temple. I don’t have to wait for some natural temple to be built in some, and, I, Christ rise up and offer some kind of stupid sacrifice on it that they dream up. It’s not in the book. They dream this stuff up. 2 Corinthians 6:16: “You are the temple of the living God, as God has said: ‘I will dwell in them and walk in them, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.’” Do we get it? See, we know God doesn’t dwell in temples made with hands. He dwells with human beings that believe on Him. Amen. And us human beings are not to defile the temple.

▶ 14:03 Amen. Hallelujah. We are that new Jerusalem. We’re free, and there’s no temple in it because Christ, when He comes and dwells in us, is the temple. Hallelujah. Then in Revelation 11:3, there are two prophets, two witnesses, that rise up and begin to prophesy for three and a half years. Okay, fire comes out of their mouth, the Bible says, and destroys anybody that messes around with them. He says it kills them. I mean, these two guys are going around, you talk about a dragon. And the Bible says they tormented the people on earth for three and a half years. You young people, there is a time coming up the road where God’s going to manifest Himself, and you’re going to be glad you chose Christ when that happens. I mean, these two witnesses are something else.

▶ 15:20 “I will give power unto my two witnesses for three and a half years.” Now, the Bible says in Acts 1:8 that we are the witnesses of God, “You shall be My witnesses.” In Isaiah 43:10 it says Israel was a witness for God. Some say Moses and Elijah are the two witnesses, and some of us just say these are two prophets to come, we’ve never seen anything like them. Some people say it’s John the Baptist and Jesus, which prophesied and spoke for three and a half years, and then John rose with Jesus when all the saints of old rose, and all these are great speculations. In verse 4 of Revelation 11, it says these are two olive trees and two lampstands standing before the God of the earth. Now, do you remember what the lampstand is? What’s the lampstand? The church. Okay, so two churches. Hm. The church of Israel in the wilderness, the church of Jesus Christ. Okay, the two olive trees are two anointed ones that stand beside the Lord of the whole earth. In Zechariah 4:14 it talks about one lampstand and two olive trees. Okay, so some say it’s one lampstand because the Jews and Gentiles are one church. Now, the problem with all the above, all that I said, is this.

▶ 16:59 “If anyone wants to harm these two witnesses, fire proceeds from their mouth and destroys their enemies.” Jesus didn’t spit fire out, neither did John the Baptist. They let their enemies kill them, both of them did, so it’s definitely not them, is it? And it’s definitely not Moses and Elijah, and it’s definitely not anyone that we have ever heard about in history. Could that be an amen? Because no man of God has ever gone through the earth spitting fire out and destroying those who oppose them and tormenting people. These two prophets are tormenting the people of the world, torturing them. Okay, so that eliminates all the theories. Could that be an amen? Could that be an amen?

▶ 17:55 Absolutely. “These have power to shut up heaven so that no rainfall falls in the days of their prophecy, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood and strike the earth with all plagues as often as they desire.” And if you remember the seals and the trumpets, that’s what was going on: fire, blood, all this stuff. So it’s almost like a connection here. “As often as they want,” they bring these plagues. So this leaves Israel and the church out, unless the church is empowered in the last days to do these things, because neither Israel nor God’s church since Jesus left this earth has done these things. Am I right? Absolutely. “The beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war with these and overcome them and kill them.” And nowhere in the Bible, church, does it say the beast is the antichrist. See, they have to connect it with their own human intellect. Nowhere does it say the beast and the antichrist are the same person.

▶ 19:15 “He makes war against them and kills them, and they lay for three days in the streets of Jerusalem, called Sodom and Egypt.” That’s a metaphor in the Old Testament of Jerusalem, “where the Lord was crucified.” So these guys are supposed to actually lie in the natural city of Jerusalem somewhere? We’ve never read it in history, have we? No. For three and a half years? Hm, interesting. “Then those from the peoples, the tongues, the tribes, the nations will see their dead bodies three and a half days and not allow their dead bodies to be put into the grave, and all those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another” (Christmas time) “because these two prophets who tormented those on earth are dead.” They’re happy these guys are gone. Now let me ask you this question: how can everybody see these two prophets? You say, “Well, the satellite TV.” Yeah, but not everybody has one. “Well, we got Internet.” Not everybody has a computer. Let me ask you this: how did they see Jesus? Everybody on earth sees Jesus when He comes. Does God need a satellite TV to do that? No, He just opens your eyes to see. Am I giving you food for thought? See, trying to literally interpret it as natural things in sequence just doesn’t work, and when it doesn’t work, we just need to leave it alone until He, what? Opens our eyes and we understand.

▶ 21:16 “After three and a half days, life comes back into them, they stood on their feet, and a great fear fell on those who saw them, and they heard a loud voice from heaven saying, ‘Come up here,’ and they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.” All their enemies saw them ascend. Now, to me, that’s not too hard to figure out, but I’m going to leave that for you. When Jesus comes, does everybody see Him? Will everybody see the graves open and the people arise? Yeah. Why? Because He’s going to, He’s going to open your eyes to see Him. Because see, in the natural mind, if Jesus came in America, how would China see Him? But see, He’s coming all over the earth. He’s God, and people are going to witness this event. It says every eye sees Him. It’s not some rapture where everybody’s going, “What happened? Huh? What happened?” No, we all, what? See. Amen. Hallelujah.

▶ 22:36 “Now there was a great earthquake the same hour, a tenth of the city fell in the earthquake, 7,000 people were killed.” Why 7,000? Why 7,000? A great earthquake, there’s millions of people in the city of Jerusalem, and 7,000 are killed. Doesn’t make sense unless you know the Scriptures about 7,000 in Israel that did not bow their knee. So these 7,000 were bowing their knee, but anyway, “and the remnant,” listen, the remnant, that’s coming up later, “were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven.” The remnant, the remainder of the people, were afraid. They were in fear, respect, and they, what? Honor God. And you’re going to see that we are the remnant in a few minutes. Hallelujah. “The second woe is past, the third woe is coming.” Okay, are you with me so far? These are three and a half and three and a half. Is how many years? Seven. Now, we got the abomination of desolation, Daniel, that they stretch over 49 weeks. They take one week and stretch it over to the end time. They have it, and it fits right in. I’ve calculated it out from the carrying away to the building of the temple when Jesus came was about the years. It’s very close. Now, let me ask you this: when did the sacrifices cease, the abomination of desolation spoken by Daniel the prophet?

▶ 24:27 See that the sacrifices will cease. Okay, now remember we told you, in Matthew it says, “When you see the abomination of desolation,” then flee to the mountains for the destruction of Jerusalem is coming. But in Luke, he doesn’t say, he does say “abomination of desolation,” he says, “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, flee to the mountain, for its destruction is coming.” And so the abomination of desolation has happened. Right now, let me ask you this: when did the sacrifices cease? Was it when the temple was torn down? No, it’s when Jesus died on the cross. Right. When He died, there was no more sacrifices. He did it. See, He fulfilled all the prophecies, He fulfilled all the law, all those types and shadows and patterns. He did it all. And so when He died, and He said, “It is finished,” that’s when the sacrifices were finished. Did the Jews keep sacrificing? Yes. Did it mean they had any profit, any clout? No. Why? Because Jesus, the one and only sacrifice, was done now, and our faith was to be in Him, and all sacrifices were to, what? Cease.

▶ 26:17 And so the Jews couldn’t get out of the natural, just like we can’t get out of the natural, and so God had the Roman army come in and destroy the temple, so now they can’t sacrifice. Why? And if you don’t want to get out of the natural and into the spiritual, God has ways to fix you. I tell you, take the faith way, take the believing way. Don’t take that other way. That’s a tough road to hoe. Hallelujah. Amen. What’s the one sacrifice left that we do? Praise. “The sacrifice of praise, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks unto His name,” which most Christians will not do. Why? Because of the way they were raised, the way they were taught. Are you with me? Now, let’s continue. Revelation 12:6, we’re going to get into this, but there’s a woman who has fled in the wilderness for three and a half years that birth the man-child. Okay, and then in Revelation 13:5 we got the dragon and the beast warring with the saints and winning, for how long? Three and a half years. Church, there’s a lot of three and a half years here, and nowhere does it say there’s seven years of tribulation. It’s not there. In one sentence, it’s not there. You have to add all this stuff up, twist Scriptures, rubber band them over here and there. Are you with me?

▶ 28:02 Seventh trumpet, third woe. Revelation 11:15: “The seventh trumpet sounded, and the angel said, ‘The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and His Christ, and He shall reign forever.’” All right, well, let me ask you this question, uh: is Christ reigning now? Yeah. Is He the King of kings and Lord of lords of the nations now? Yeah. Duh. Hallelujah. Matthew 28:18: “All power is given to Me in heaven and in earth. Go you, for this reason, and teach all nations.” How much power does Jesus have? All of it. Amen. The 24 elders worship again. You don’t like worship, you don’t like getting on your knees, I don’t know what you’re going to do in heaven. All through Revelation these guys are worshiping Jesus every time you turn around, ain’t that right? Yeah. What are you going to do, get up there and say, “Hey, that’s not my nature, I wasn’t raised that way, that ain’t how we did it in our Baptist church. Where’s the candles, man? I’m a Catholic, where’s the candles? Where’s the incense?” No, you’re not going to argue, so we might as well do it now.

▶ 29:56 He says, “You have taken Your great power and reign.” “The nations were angry, for Your wrath has come, and the time of the dead that are judged, and the rewards for the saints.” Look at this. Everything is happening at the same time. Watch this, just read it. The nations are what? Do they, a lot of the people, nations means people, are a lot of people mad at Jesus? They don’t like you saying that name. Is our government mad at Jesus? They don’t want the name said. Yeah. “Your wrath has come.” Okay, these plagues, these things that God does to get people’s attention and get them to repent, as we learn. “And the time of the dead being judged.” Oh, how does the dead get judged? They got to be what? Resurrected. See, this is all happening at the same time. “And the saints are rewarded.” Ooh, that don’t sound like a big woe to me. The third woe has come. Doesn’t sound like much of a woe to me when you’re on the right side, does it? Rewards, I can handle rewards. Are you with me? Hallelujah. But boy, they got it all complicated. And, you know, saints are resurrected, then later the dead in sin are resurrected, and all this stuff, but right here it says what? It’s all happening at the same time.