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From the sermonThe Helpers and the Helped · Pastor David G. Kincer▶ 0:00

In this message Pastor David G. Kincer teaches Isaiah 31 and 32: those who rely on human help instead of God, and those who help them, fall together. He says trust in leaders, armies, ourselves and religion must be restricted, then reads the lion and shepherds allegory, and calls believers to speak and reign in righteousness.

What does Isaiah 31:1-3 say about going to Egypt for help? (Isaiah 31:1, 31:3)

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Short answer: He says God will fight against secular, “which is non-spiritual,” “the absence of spiritual, the absence of God.” He reads Isaiah 31:1, “Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help,” and says, “when you leave out God, you’re going to miss a source of very important answers to your problems.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 0:00 The title of this is “secular helpers and those helped.” God will fight against secular, which is non-spiritual. Okay, humans doing their thing, no supernatural God, no spiritual in it. That’s what secular is: the absence of spiritual, the absence of God. Secular. We’re going to look in Isaiah today, and you’re going to see that God’s going to fight against them and those that receive help from them. Isaiah 31:1: “Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help, who rely on horses, who trust in many chariots and strong

▶ 0:56 horsemen.” That’s the military. Egypt is a nation of human beings. It’s the human part. We trust in humans, human leaders, human ways, human laws. “But they do not look to the Holy One of Israel, nor seek the Lord.” You see, they look to the military might, they look to humans for answers, and they don’t seek the Lord. And then God explains in verse 3 that “the Egyptians are men and not God.” See, that’s the human, that’s the secular. God is telling you what they are. Now He’s explaining what He’s talking about: “and their horses are flesh and not spirit.” You see, God is spirit, and when you leave out the spirit, when you leave out God,

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Isaiah 31:1 (NKJV)

Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help, And rely on horses, Who trust in chariots because they are many, And in horsemen because they are very strong, But who do not look to the Holy One of Israel, Nor seek the LORD!

— Isaiah 31:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 0:33
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Isaiah 31:3 (NKJV)

Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; And their horses are flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD stretches out His hand, Both he who helps will fall, And he who is helped will fall down; They all will perish together.

— Isaiah 31:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:36

How does Jehoshaphat’s alliance relate to humanism today? (2 Chronicles 19:2)

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Short answer: He says God asked Jehoshaphat, “Should you help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?” He then says humanists “reject the Bible,” and “it was written by humans, but not solely… as the Spirit inspired them, they wrote.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 2:05 you’re going to miss a source of very important answers to your problems and the world’s problems. Can that be an amen? Yeah. “Their horses are flesh and not spirit.” In 2 Chronicles 19:2, we have the story of Jehoshaphat uniting to go to war with Israel, who was an ungodly nation at that time, even though they believed in God. They had their own way of worship, they did everything their own way. And God comes to Jehoshaphat and says, “Should you help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?” Should you unite with them? And see, that’s what Isaiah is talking about. Why do we go to humans for answers that only God really can provide?

▶ 3:06 Yes. Now in our day and hour, humanists. As you see that icon up there, that’s the humanist icon, American Humanist Association, “Good Without God.” They brag about it. No God. And as we taught you last week in the Humanist Manifesto, humanists reject the Bible. It’s not the Word of God, it has a lot of errors in it, a lot of contradictions, they say it was written solely by humans. And that’s true, it was written by humans, but not solely. The Bible says as the Spirit inspired them, they wrote. That’s a big difference. There is no God, no

▶ 3:53 miracles, and there’s no prayer that can help men’s problems. And as we shared with you last week, they said they were going to take their battle to the public schools, the public universities, the public high schools, intermediate schools, public education, and they were going to fight their battle there in the public school. And they even arrogantly said, “What is a theistic school going to do with having the children for one hour, a small fraction of them, a week, and we’ve got them five days? We will win the battle in these schools.” And they’ve pretty much done it. Yes. Okay, humanists are atheists. That banner over there. Humanists are liberals, they’re hedonists, they’re atheists, they’re religionists, they’re evolutionists, they’re homosexual activists, they’re communists, and they’re socialists. They all accept these humanistic values that are being taught and been taught since the ‘30s, and really got going in the late ‘40s in the public school, and the church has just been kind of laid back and not really addressing this issue. See, we don’t know who our enemies

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2 Chronicles 19:2 (NKJV)

And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to King Jehoshaphat, “Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the LORD? Therefore the wrath of the LORD is upon you.

— 2 Chronicles 19:2 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:20

What does it mean that the helper and the helped fall together? (Isaiah 31:2-3)

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Short answer: He reads Isaiah 31:2-3 and says “you cannot leave out the God factor. He’s going to be involved whether you believe in Him or whether you like it or not.” He says “we can’t plead ignorance,” since both “the helper and the helped will perish together.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 5:18 are, and they’re forcing their ideas upon America. Now Isaiah 31:2: “Yet God is also wise, and will bring disaster, and will not call back His words, but will rise against the house of evildoers.” You see, you cannot leave out the God factor. He’s going to be involved whether you believe in Him or whether you like it or not. He’s going to be involved. Now listen to this: He’s against the help of those who work iniquity. He don’t want those who work iniquity

▶ 6:13 helping the rest of the people in the community. Do you get it? All right, to make it clear, He goes on to say, “When the Lord stretches out His hand, both he who helps,” and that Egypt, that’s the humans, that’s the secular part, “both he who helps will fall, and he who is helped,” that’s those that trust in man and trust his armies, receive the help from men, “they will fall, also.” Now, that’s a powerful statement. So we can’t say, “Well, I didn’t know.” We can’t plead ignorance.

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Isaiah 31:2-3 (NKJV)

Yet He also is wise and will bring disaster, And will not call back His words, But will arise against the house of evildoers, And against the help of those who work iniquity. Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; And their horses are flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD stretches out His hand, Both he who helps will fall, And he who is helped will fall down; They all will perish together.

— Isaiah 31:2-3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:27

How much should we trust armies and rulers? (Psalm 20:7, Psalm 146:3)

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Short answer: He says armies and rulers are “necessary, but it requires restricted trust.” He cites Psalm 20:7, “Some trust in chariots and some in horses,” and says “if God turns against you, I don’t care what kind of army you’ve got, you’re going to lose.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 7:09 “Here they all, all,” being the helper and the helped, “will perish together.” Do you get it? Yeah. Many are the ways of man, and they all lead to destruction. Very powerful verse. And men try to get together to solve things without God, and we really come up short and make a lot of mistakes. Now, a lot of these things are necessary that man do that. We’ve got to trust in man, for they’re necessary, but it requires restricted trust. Okay, necessary, but it requires restricted trust. An army, for instance, is important, a military. Psalms 20:7: “Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we will remember the name of the Lord our

▶ 8:21 God. They are brought down and fallen, but we are risen and stand upright.” See, we need armies to protect our families, to protect our nations, to protect our possessions. But we need to restrict our trust in them. They’re not the total answer, because if God turns against you, I don’t care what kind of army you’ve got, you’re going to lose. I’ll show you that in a minute. You’re going to. We also need rulers. Psalms 146:3: “Don’t put your trust in rulers.” We need rulers. We need civil rulers, we need church leaders, we need family leaders, and we need a dad and a mom and a husband and a wife, and they’re the leaders of the home, and church leaders, and civil leaders, community. We need leaders, but you’ve got to restrict your trust in them because they are human beings.

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Psalm 20:7 (NKJV)

Some trust in chariots, and some in horses; But we will remember the name of the LORD our God.

— Psalm 20:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:07
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Psalm 146:3 (NKJV)

Do not put your trust in princes, Nor in a son of man, in whom there is no help.

— Psalm 146:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:03

Why do leaders need counsel, and what are “lying, unprofitable words”? (Jeremiah 7:8-9)

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Short answer: He says “humans are limited. We need one another,” and he told his staff about plans so “if I missed anything, we caught it.” He says the words people trust are lies, and “we’ve got to do our research and know what’s going on.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 9:33 You know, a man can have great intentions in the home, running that home right, and come up short if he didn’t get proper advice. You see, church leaders can mess up a church if they’re not getting the proper advice. That’s why throughout my years I always talked things over with my staff before I made a call, before I put a calendar out. If we had a program, I did everything possible to have that program ripe and ready, but before it was advertised or implemented, I always got with staff. We talked it over, so if I missed anything, we caught it. You know, and some things I missed so bad I had to throw the program in the trash. Now, if I’d have went ahead and went and done it and I missed something because I didn’t seek

▶ 10:32 counsel, I would have hurt a lot of people. Are you there? Yes. See, humans are limited. We need one another. You say, we need one another. And so you’ve got to watch what kind of trust you put in any kind of leader, because remember, they are human beings, and if they’re not in touch with God and seeking for God’s counsel as well as logical counsel, there’s going to be a problem. And that’s why American homes are a mess, because fathers are not getting proper counsel, proper advice, and mothers aren’t. Okay. Also, you trust in “lying, unprofitable words,” and he goes on to say what those words are: you steal, it’s okay to steal; it’s okay to murder; it’s okay to hate; commit adultery, sexual immorality; it’s okay to worship other gods. You know, those are lying, unprofitable

▶ 11:33 words. And just because our civil government says homosexuals were born that way does not make it true. You see, that’s a lie, and they’re causing many, it’s hard to witness now to homosexuals, because they come back at me with, “I’m born that way.” Our nation has them so locked in and brainwashed to thinking that they’re normal, it’s hard to get through with the gospel with them now than it was 20 years ago. Hallelujah. It’s lying words that are unprofitable, and our government lies to us all the time. You know, you don’t have to have a Yale degree to recognize a lie when it’s told.

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Jeremiah 7:8-9 (NKJV)

“Behold, you trust in lying words that cannot profit. Will you steal, murder, commit adultery, swear falsely, burn incense to Baal, and walk after other gods whom you do not know,

— Jeremiah 7:8-9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:17 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

How much should we trust ourselves, our religion and our money? (2 Corinthians 1:9, Philippians 3:3, 1 Timothy 6:17)

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Short answer: He cites 2 Corinthians 1:9, “We should not trust in ourselves but in God,” and says to watch “what kind of self-esteem it is.” He reads “no longer have confidence in the flesh,” and “Don’t trust in uncertain riches.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 12:29 And we can’t trust in lying words. We’ve got to restrict ourselves, and we’ve got to do our research and know what’s going on. 2 Corinthians 1:9: “We should not trust in ourselves but in God.” You know, you can have all the steam, you all these basketball players yesterday, both teams, “Yeah, we’re going to win, we’re going to win, we’re going to win,” yeah, yeah, yeah. They lost, and no, they weren’t good enough. The bottom line is they weren’t good enough. There was a boxing match yesterday, both of them, “We’re going to win, we’re going to win,” again, well, one wasn’t good enough. You know, you’ve got to watch what kind of confidence you put in yourself. You’ve got to watch what kind of self-esteem it is. Is it an extreme, selfish, ridiculous, arrogant self-esteem that you’ve got, or is it a practical one? You know your limitations, you know what you can do.

▶ 13:33 Hallelujah. You’ve got to restrict how much trust you put in yourself. Also, “no longer have confidence in the flesh.” Now, when Paul said this, he’s talking about religion and culture. He goes into, “I was a Pharisee, and I was born of a Jewish tribe,” you know, and he goes into the culture, he goes into the religion. Is America very religious? Right. Now, their faith is in their religious structure, not in Jesus and Bible truths. See, when we get involved, a religion is man-made things, man’s principles concerning deity and all the rest. That’s what religion is. And Paul is saying, “Are my culture, you know, I had great confidence in being a Jew, I had great confidence in my religion, I was a

▶ 14:34 Pharisee,” and it didn’t work, because the Pharisee religion had a lot of problems. And he worked to try to please the leaders of the Pharisee church so he could, you know, move up the ladder. That’s what he said. Could that be true in America today? Hallelujah. Oh yeah, there’s people going to die Baptist, whether the Baptists are right or not. They’re going to die Catholic, whether the Catholic is right or not. They trust in them, you know, the flesh, the religion, the culture they’re so used to. They think that just covers everything. Are you there, church? You see, we’ve got to restrict our trust, we’ve got to examine it, and yet we need these things to live in life. And then, of course, the last one, 1 Timothy 6:17: “Don’t trust in uncertain riches.” And a lot of people, they just trust in

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2 Corinthians 1:9 (NKJV)

Yes, we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves but in God who raises the dead,

— 2 Corinthians 1:9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 12:38
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Philippians 3:3-5 (NKJV)

For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh, though I also might have confidence in the flesh. If anyone else thinks he may have confidence in the flesh, I more so: circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee;

— Philippians 3:3-5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 13:40 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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1 Timothy 6:17 (NKJV)

Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy.

— 1 Timothy 6:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:32

What does he say about the church and social programs, and what is a disciple? (Matthew 28:19-20, 1 Corinthians 1:24)

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Short answer: He says “much of the American church has bought into the humanistic goals,” and “Jesus didn’t say, ‘Go into all the world and make social programs.’” He says “a disciple is an obedient one, not a believer,” and “it is the power of the gospel that saves souls.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 15:40 money. Now, much of the American church has bought into the humanistic goals that civil leaders, business leaders, and rebuilt church leaders. Remember, in the Humanist Manifesto, they want to rebuild the church, they want to convert the church, they want to change the church from what it is to their religion. Are you there? Last week, remember that? If you don’t believe me, just look up Humanist Manifesto I. It’s all there. Okay, this doesn’t take much research. Okay, they want to change the church and then get their leaders and the business leaders and civil leaders uniting for social programs, not moral issues, social programs, and they say that will solve mankind’s

▶ 16:46 problems. All right. And most of the church don’t even know this is going on. They don’t know that Rick Warren of Saddleback Church is a prime leader of this movement, because Christians basically, they’re just gullible, they, you know, they’re just, we’re just gullible. We hear something on the radio, and you’ve got 20,000 people coming to your church, you must have, yeah. And all over the world, he’s pushing this secular humanistic program of social reform, putting all of his money into it. He makes millions off of selling books, and, you know, he’s the one talking, so I have a right to talk too. If he’s going to do this, I have a right to talk. Jesus didn’t say, “Go into all the world and make social programs.” He said to “go into all the world and make disciples of all nations, teaching them to obey all things I commanded.” So a disciple is an obedient one, not a believer. There’s a difference between a believer and a disciple. A believer just believes anything they want, and they believe they’re going to heaven no matter how they act, how they talk, or whatever. They’ve got no responsibility, no accountability. The disciple’s

▶ 18:11 different. They’re responsible to the Word of God to obey it. They fail, they get up, they admit they’re wrong, they get up and they keep going. That’s what a disciple is. Are you there, church? And if these ministers got the guts to say these things, somebody’s got to stand up and say, “Hey, the last time I read the book, it is the power of the gospel that saves souls.” Is that right? Yeah. Jesus, the Bible says, is the power of God and the wisdom of God. So this Man Jesus is a big thing, and that He should be preached about, and the cross, and the birth of Jesus, and the ministry of Jesus, all these things should be preached, because it is the power and wisdom of God, and to obey what He says is really what the wisdom

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Matthew 28:19-20 (NKJV)

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

— Matthew 28:19-20 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 17:40 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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1 Corinthians 1:24 (NKJV)

but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

— 1 Corinthians 1:24 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 18:46 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

Does he say righteousness or social programs lift a nation?

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Short answer: He says “not one program focusing on the morality of America,” and “it’s righteousness that blesses, exalts a nation.” He says “if we have a goal for right, we can affect the nation.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 19:08 is. Hallelujah. And so, you know, these people want to speak, and because they’re so big and so wealthy, no one wants to challenge them. Somebody’s got to say something. And the American church right now thinks we’re so great because we’ve got all these social programs. We’ve got, you know, women’s health, you know, that means they can have money for birth control and have an abortion if they make a mistake. They call it women’s health. And we’ve got housing programs, food stamp programs, we’ve got all kinds of social programs in America, and not one program focusing on the morality of America. Right. And it’s righteousness that blesses, exalts a nation, right? It’s righteousness, it’s doing right. So whether we’re Orthodox, Catholic, Baptist, Pentecostal, if we have a goal for right, we can affect the nation. Yes.

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Proverbs 14:34 (NKJV)

Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a reproach to any people.

— Proverbs 14:34 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 19:58 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What is the lion allegory in Isaiah 31:4?

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Short answer: He says “the young lion is over his prey. Who’s the prey here?” and “the multitude of shepherds” include “Pastor” and “Church leader.” He says the lion “is not bothered by their voices or by their noise,” and the Lord “will come down to fight for Mount Zion.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 20:20 Amen. Now Isaiah 31:4: “The Lord spoke to me,” as is circled, because he’s starting an allegory. Okay, He’s going to give you an illustration here: “As a young lion roars over his prey,” that’s what a lion does, they get the prey, the deer, and they tackle it down and they kill it, and they’re already. “As the lion roars over his prey, when the multitude of shepherds is summoned against him.” Okay, now we just got through hearing that God’s going to come against the secular helpers and those that helped. Right now He’s going into an allegory. The young lion is over his prey. Who’s the prey here?

▶ 21:12 Then the secular, human help, instead of that, reject God, [unclear]. Are you here today? “Then the multitude of shepherds is summoned against him.” The multitude of shepherds. What’s another word for shepherd in the Bible? Pastor. Woo. Church leader. The multitude of shepherds are summoned against him. Wow, this thing is starting to get into focus. Now, the young lion destroyed the prey, and the shepherds are against the lion. “He’s not afraid nor even disturbed, he’s not even

▶ 22:05 bothered by their voice or their noise.” Hallelujah. “The Lord of hosts will come down to fight for Mount Zion.” The lion is who? [unclear]. The Lord. The lion destroyed the prey, the pastors come against the lion, the lion is not bothered by their voices or by their noise, and then He comes quickly and says the Lord will come down to fight for Mount Zion. He’s going to come down and fight against our enemies, the ones that trust in the Lord, the ones that know we need human leaders and so forth, but our trust must be in the Lord. He’s going to come and fight for them. He’s the

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Isaiah 31:4 (NKJV)

For thus the LORD has spoken to me: “As a lion roars, And a young lion over his prey (When a multitude of shepherds is summoned against him, He will not be afraid of their voice Nor be disturbed by their noise), So the LORD of hosts will come down To fight for Mount Zion and for its hill.

— Isaiah 31:4 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 20:24

Who are the shepherds summoned against the lion, and what does “passing over” mean? (Isaiah 31:5)

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Short answer: He says “the biggest opposers to Christ were those that believed in God,” and that these pastors “received what help from the secular.” He explains “passing over” as God covering the door of the home: “when He’s the Lord of our life, ain’t nobody can mess with us.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 23:13 lion. Hallelujah. Well, what’s these pastors, then? What’s these shepherds that are summoned against the lion? I’m sure you guys aren’t naive. I’m sure you know that in the New Testament, the biggest opposers to Christ were those that believed in God. Right? The Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Essenes, the [unclear], the Greek-speaking Jews, and so forth, in their little religions they believed in God and rejected God when He came, rejected His Word, and yet they believed in Him. So these pastors are pastors that received what help from the

▶ 24:12 secular? Is this getting through? Okay, I’m going to back it up here. I’m going to back it up. “The Lord of hosts will defend and deliver Jerusalem.” Jerusalem is what? The church, the city of God. “Passing over, He will preserve it.” Now this “passing over” is the same word over there in Exodus when they came out of Egypt and the death angel came through, and it says, you know, the Passover. What it means is God will pass over, will cover that home. He’ll cover that home. See, not that He passes over like this, but He passes over like this. See, you can’t get in. He went over the door of the home. See, He covered the door of the home. He got it. Yeah. And when He’s covering the door, when He’s the Lord of our life, ain’t nobody can mess with us.

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Isaiah 31:5 (NKJV)

Like birds flying about, So will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem. Defending, He will also deliver it; Passing over, He will preserve it.”

— Isaiah 31:5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 24:21
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Exodus 12:13 (NKJV)

Now the blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you; and the plague shall not be on you to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt.

— Exodus 12:13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 24:39 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

Why does God say “return” and who are the “greedy dogs”? (Isaiah 31:6, Hosea 5:14, Isaiah 56:11)

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Short answer: He reads “Now return to Him against whom the children of Israel have deeply revolted” and says, “you still can make it.” He cites Hosea 5:14 for the young lion and Isaiah 56:11 for shepherds who “look to their own way, everyone to his own gain.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 25:12 Amen. Hallelujah. And He’s going to preserve it, folks. That’s the people that seek Him and trust in Him. They’re not listening to secular, humanistic counsel. Are you there? It pays to trust in the Lord. He will preserve and protect you. He is the Lord. “Now return to Him against whom the children of Israel have deeply revolted.” Return. Okay, He’s telling these people that put their trust in Egypt and the military and flesh and humanistic programs, He says, “Hey, turn, turn, repent. You’ve revolted deeply against Me. Turn back.” So He’s telling them you still can make it.

▶ 26:11 Amen. Now, real quickly, so you know, Hosea 5:14: “I will be a young lion to Judah.” That’s Jesus talking, the Lord talking: “I will be a young lion to Judah.” Okay, what was roaring over the prey? A young lion. I told you the Bible explains itself. You don’t need to know a lot of Hebrew and Greek, you just need to know the Holy Ghost that can reveal these things. Is that true? Yes. Now Isaiah 56:11: “They are all greedy dogs which can never have enough. They are shepherds,” oh, these shepherds that summoned against him, “that can’t understand. They all look to their own way, everyone to his own gain.” Is that a lot of church leadership in America today?

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Isaiah 31:6 (NKJV)

Return to Him against whom the children of Israel have deeply revolted.

— Isaiah 31:6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 25:47
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Hosea 5:14 (NKJV)

For I will be like a lion to Ephraim, And like a young lion to the house of Judah. I, even I, will tear them and go away; I will take them away, and no one shall rescue.

— Hosea 5:14 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 26:17
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Isaiah 56:11 (NKJV)

Yes, they are greedy dogs Which never have enough. And they are shepherds Who cannot understand; They all look to their own way, Every one for his own gain, From his own territory.

— Isaiah 56:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 26:50

What does he say shepherds must do, and are all believers priests? (Ezekiel 34:2, 1 Peter 2:5-9, Jeremiah 23:1)

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Short answer: He cites Ezekiel 34:2, “Woe to the shepherds that feed themselves,” and 1 Peter 2:5, 9. He says “we’re all priests that can go in before God.” He says “pastor is a job description. Either you’ve got it or you don’t got it,” and “a pastor’s greatest ministry is to feed the church.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 27:09 Yeah. Yeah. They’re only interested in those tithing so they can support their home and have a car and all the rest, and they’re going to please the people so they don’t leave, and so we hurt them in the end, because they don’t get mature, they don’t become strong, they don’t become a warrior. And it weakens the church. Then he says in Ezekiel 34:2, “Woe to the shepherds that feed themselves. Shepherds should feed the flock.” 1 Peter 2:5, you remember, and 9 says: “You also are built up a spiritual house. You are a holy priesthood. You are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a peculiar people.” You see, we

▶ 28:05 are shepherds that need not only to feed ourselves. We need to feed those in our family, those in the community. Yes. See, we’re all priests that can go in before God. We don’t need a Pope. We don’t need a big chief of the denomination of some Protestant. We can go in Christ ourselves, we can hear from Him, and we can come out and we can be a blessing to others. Could that be an amen? Yes. Shepherds should feed the flock. How many shepherds are out there that honestly they can’t feed the flock? The flock don’t change because there’s no Word to change them, and a lot of people are getting fed up with the church in America, and the home church is really growing. 5% of Christians now go to a home church, and what they’re finding out is they’ve got the same problems as the church they left. They’ve got to face and overcome the same problems, and we need teachers, we need guidance, and we don’t have it. And just because you start a home church doesn’t mean you’ve got an answer at all, because a pastor’s greatest ministry is to feed the

▶ 29:26 church. Amen. Yes. Hallelujah. And putting a title on you as a pastor, that means nothing. Pastor is a job description. Either you’ve got it or you don’t got it. Amen. Yes. Now Jeremiah 23:1: “Woe to the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture.” So see, these shepherds that come against the lion are the false leaders in the church. The Lord’s not afraid nor is He disturbed by these false church leaders. He will preserve and defend His church, which return to Him. See, those that turn to Him, those that trust Him, He is going to defend them. He’s going to preserve

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Ezekiel 34:2 (NKJV)

“Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD to the shepherds: “Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

— Ezekiel 34:2 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 27:37
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1 Peter 2:5-9 (NKJV)

you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious, And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.” Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,” and “A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.” They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

— 1 Peter 2:5-9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 27:46
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Jeremiah 23:1 (NKJV)

“Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!” says the LORD.

— Jeremiah 23:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 29:47

Why does he say believers must speak up? (Isaiah 31:7)

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Short answer: He says “if we raise up our voices, we can expose these false church leaders,” and “if you’re silent when you go out these doors, you’re not helping anybody.” He says “until God said, ‘Let there be light,’ there was no light.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 30:25 them. And if we raise up our voices, we can expose these false church leaders, and many of God’s people can return and be blessed. Are you there? If you’re silent when you go out these doors, you’re not helping anybody. Remember, as I said Friday night in the home Bible study, we wouldn’t be here if God hadn’t spoke. God said, “Let us make man in Our image,” and until He said it, there was no man. Until God said, “Let there be light,” there was no light. Are you there? Jesus was on earth for 30 years and never did anything, had no effect on the world, none, until He started speaking, and then they were glad or they were

▶ 31:23 mad. They wanted to follow Him or they wanted to kill Him. There was no middle road. Are you there? So we’ve got to what? Speak these truths. When we go out, we’ve got to contend with the issues of today out there in this community that the humanists are bombarding the nation of America with. Could that be an amen? Now Isaiah 31:7: “For in that day,” the day that we return to the Lord, the day that we return to God, “in that day.” And there’s a book there, one of the popular books of the day about prophecy in America as a chosen nation like Abraham was a chosen nation. People, don’t we get it that God loves the whole

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Genesis 1:3 (NKJV)

Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.

— Genesis 1:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 31:03 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Isaiah 31:7 (NKJV)

For in that day every man shall throw away his idols of silver and his idols of gold—sin, which your own hands have made for yourselves.

— Isaiah 31:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 31:49

What does he say about America, idols, and the fall of Assyria? (Isaiah 31:7-8, Isaiah 37:36)

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Short answer: He says “America is no special child of God” and “God loves the Eskimo just as much as He loves Americans.” He says idols are sin, and Assyria falls by a “sword… not of man,” citing “185,000 died in one night of the Assyrian army.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 32:17 world? America is no special child of God. We have our ego makes us want to think that, but God loves the Eskimo just as much as He loves Americans. Is that an amen? His promises are just as much for those people up there who just seemingly be a side issue of life as He is for America. God, the Eskimos are important to God. Get away from this nonsense. Anyway, he’s using Isaiah to show God’s judging, and 9/11 was predicted by Jeremiah, and the stock market falling, and the 777, it fell 777 points, 777, 7 here, 7 there. Get off of it. Read the Bible, and you’re just making these guys rich buying these books, and he’s a Jewish rabbi that wrote

▶ 33:24 this. “Every man will throw away his idols of silver and gold,” and then he explains what the idols of silver and gold is: sin, “which your own hands have made for yourself.” So when we decide to sin, we make ourselves sinners. That’s the same as an idol. He said, “Well, we don’t worship idols anymore. I don’t even have a cross in my house. I am so idol conscious, and I don’t even have a picture of Jesus in my house.” Well, you’ve got sin in your life, man, that’s an idol. You’re a liar, you’re a sexually immoral person, that’s an idol. Sin. Now catch this: then Assyria, who was the source God used to correct His people. Okay, all right.

▶ 34:27 “Assyria shall fall by the sword, not of man.” Say that: not of man. Not of man. You see, God don’t need human help to do what He wants to do. He can use humans or He can do without humans. And He says, “I’m going to deal with Assyria with a sword that’s not human.” The source is not human. Okay, and then He repeats it: “A sword not of mankind shall destroy Assyria.” And that’s exactly what happened when we go over to Isaiah 37:36: 185,000 died in one night of the Assyrian army. 185,000 by the sword of the angel. The angel came through with his sword, and bam, bam, bam, and no atomic bomb can fight against the angel, I’m telling you. There’s no tank, there’s no aircraft carrier when that angel comes through. Forget

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Isaiah 31:8 (NKJV)

“Then Assyria shall fall by a sword not of man, And a sword not of mankind shall devour him. But he shall flee from the sword, And his young men shall become forced labor.

— Isaiah 31:8 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 34:27
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Isaiah 37:36 (NKJV)

Then the angel of the LORD went out, and killed in the camp of the Assyrians one hundred and eighty-five thousand; and when people arose early in the morning, there were the corpses—all dead.

— Isaiah 37:36 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 35:04

What does it mean to reign in righteousness and “reign in life”? (Isaiah 32:1, Revelation 1:5-6, Romans 5:17)

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Short answer: He says “if we are kings, we should be what? Ruling in righteousness,” in the home, church and civil life. He says “we don’t have to wait for the rapture… We rule and reign when? Now, in this life.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 35:36 it. That’s why we need to trust in the Lord, and all these prophecies of end-time having man blow up earth by nuclear bombs and all that. God don’t need man’s help. When He decides to renovate the earth, He will do it by His Word. Earth renovate, broom, burns up, bang. Are you there? “But he will flee from the sword, not a man. His young men shall become forced laborers.” 2 Kings 1, I mean, Isaiah 32:1: “A king shall reign in righteousness, princes with justice.” Okay, Revelation 1:5-6: Jesus has made us, say “us,” us kings and priests unto God. So if we are kings, we should be what? Ruling in righteousness. The husband in the home should be a man of righteousness, the wife in the home guiding that home should be a woman of righteousness, the church leaders should be leaders of what?

▶ 36:56 Righteousness. Political leaders should be what? Righteous. It’s the right, you know, anybody can have a kid, that doesn’t make you a parent. A wise one anyway, doesn’t make you a right parent. You’ve got to get right to be right. Hallelujah. Yes. My point here is just because you’re elected president doesn’t mean you’re a good leader, or a senator or a representative, it doesn’t mean you’re a good, now you’ve got a, doesn’t mean, doesn’t change a thing. Are you for righteousness? And leaders should rule in righteousness, and if you want to bless your family, be parents that lead your kids down the pathway of righteousness, the pathway of truth. They reject it later, that’s their problem.

▶ 37:59 Their sin will correct them, but it’s our job to lead them rightly, and that’s what it is with civil leaders, they’re supposed to be leading us rightly. Romans 5:17: “They which receive the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness.” Okay, how many are saved by grace through faith, that not of yourself, that is the gift of God? Grace, grace, grace, come on. The rest of you’re afraid to hold your hands up. Yes, we are. And look, because of God’s graciousness, because of His favor, because of His divine enablement, which is a better word for grace, “we shall reign in life.” We don’t have to wait for the rapture. We don’t have to wait to go to heaven. We don’t have to wait to die. We rule and reign when? Now, in this

▶ 38:52 life. We reign over sin, we reign over ignorance, we reign over superstition, we reign over these things. We rule in truth and right. Could that be an amen? So many Christians are waiting for the rapture. You are a king now, and kings rule now, and this is when your children need you ruling and reigning. This is when your wife and your husband need you ruling and reigning, when it helps them, when it profits the home, when it profits the relationship. Amen. Now that’s good preaching. Just thought I’d let you know, Isaiah is a powerful, powerful prophet. Amen. “In that day.” What’s that day? The day we return to the

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Isaiah 32:1 (NKJV)

Behold, a king will reign in righteousness, And princes will rule with justice.

— Isaiah 32:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 36:15
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Revelation 1:5-6 (NKJV)

and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

— Revelation 1:5-6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 36:24
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Romans 5:17 (NKJV)

For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)

— Romans 5:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 38:09

What does Isaiah 32 promise when the Spirit is poured out? (Isaiah 32:3-4)

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Short answer: He reads “The tongue of stammerers will be ready to speak plainly,” and says “pick up the pace.” He says “the foolish will continue to speak foolishness,” and that when the Spirit is poured out, “the wilderness becomes a fruitful field.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 39:50 Lord, that day that we return to the God, we turn back to God, we put our trust in Jesus. Isaiah 32:3: “The eyes of those who see will not be dimmed, the ears of those who hear will continually listen, the heart of the hasty will understand knowledge, and the tongue of stammerers will be ready to speak plainly.” Those of you who’ve been lazy in reading your Bible, lazy in studying, lazy in going to Bible studies, pick up the pace. Because it’s the quick, it’s the ones that get out there and run the race that will get the knowledge and understanding. Amen. Amen. Pick up the pace. Say it: pick up the pace. It’s not for the lazy. A lot of us don’t know anything because we’re just flat-out lazy. We’ve got a zillion excuses why we can’t find time to read that book, go to a Bible study, and learn the Word. Am I right? Yeah.

▶ 40:58 “And the tongue of the stammerers.” How, you had a hard time witnessing to people, [unclear] to your teeth. You know, when people ask you a question in the Bible, “Pastor Dave, come over here.” Ain’t I right? Yeah. [unclear] stammerer, but he says “in that day that we turn we will be ready to speak,” and he has an adjective in there, “plainly,” clearly. We make sense because we’ve got something to say. How many know if you don’t have anything to say, you can’t talk? Oh, that’s not true. In America, we talk whether we’ve got anything to say or not. We just act like we know the Bible whether we know it or

▶ 41:58 not. Isn’t this a tremendous promise that Isaiah has given us? And people want to buy high-banger books and Late Great Planet Earth books, and Isaiah’s there just filled with juicy stuff. But “the foolish will continue to speak foolishness, they will work iniquity, lawlessness, they’ll practice ungodliness, they’ll utter error against the Lord.” Why? Because they’re getting help from the secular, from the human side, and they don’t trust in nor seek the Lord, so they just continue sinning, they just continue being fools. Remember Jesus said that the people at the flood did not know until the flood came and took them away. So shall it be in the second coming. There will be people on earth no matter how great God moves before He comes, and we see there is something tremendous in the future here that God’s going to demonstrate Himself. There’s still going to be people who refuse to listen, and they’re not going to know till Jesus pops through the sky and it’s too late. And people say, “How can that be if He really demonstrates Himself?” Well, He was here 2,000 years ago, and they rejected Him.

▶ 43:27 Are you there? Hallelujah. In the wilderness, He did all those judgments, and Egypt still wouldn’t believe. And then Isaiah 32:4, “until the Spirit is poured out on us from on high.” I love the prayer time today focusing on the Holy Spirit. “Until the Spirit is poured out upon us from on high, the wilderness becomes a fruitful field, and the fruitful field is counted as a forest, with justice and righteousness.” So here is a visitation of Bible morality and a fruitful field. You know, we can have a 10-acre field, but you know, you don’t have a 10-acre

▶ 44:26 forest. A forest is something that spreads over the country, miles and miles, trees after trees after trees. So this is going to be a visitation of Bible morality, and it’s going to go from the field, which is His church, and just spread. The Bible says we’re called “trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord.” Amen. We’re His orchard. We need leaders. God chooses humans to work with, but we are restricted. If we don’t get a hold of this Man Jesus and His Word, we are restricted in how effective we can be.

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Isaiah 32:3 (NKJV)

The eyes of those who see will not be dim, And the ears of those who hear will listen.

— Isaiah 32:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 39:56
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Isaiah 32:4 (NKJV)

Also the heart of the rash will understand knowledge, And the tongue of the stammerers will be ready to speak plainly.

— Isaiah 32:4 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 43:43
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Matthew 24:38-39 (NKJV)

For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

— Matthew 24:38-39 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 42:49 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

More questions this message answers

Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.

What does “secular” mean?

He says “which is non-spiritual. Okay, humans doing their thing, no supernatural God, no spiritual in it. That’s what secular is: the absence of spiritual, the absence of God.”

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Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help, And rely on horses, Who trust in chariots because they are many, And in horsemen because they are very strong, But who do not look to the Holy One of Israel, Nor seek the LORD!

— Isaiah 31:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 0:33

Why does the verse say woe to those who rely on Egypt?

He says “they look to the military might, they look to humans for answers, and they don’t seek the Lord.”

▶ Watch at 0:56

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Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; And their horses are flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD stretches out His hand, Both he who helps will fall, And he who is helped will fall down; They all will perish together.

— Isaiah 31:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:36

What did God say to Jehoshaphat?

He says God asked, “Should you help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?”

▶ Watch at 2:05

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And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to King Jehoshaphat, “Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the LORD? Therefore the wrath of the LORD is upon you.

— 2 Chronicles 19:2 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:20

What does he say humanists believe about the Bible?

He says “humanists reject the Bible. It’s not the Word of God, it has a lot of errors in it.” He answers, “The Bible says as the Spirit inspired them, they wrote. That’s a big difference.”

▶ Watch at 3:06

What does he say happens to the helper and the helped?

He says “here they all, all,” being the helper and the helped, “will perish together,” and “we can’t plead ignorance.”

▶ Watch at 6:13

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Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; And their horses are flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD stretches out His hand, Both he who helps will fall, And he who is helped will fall down; They all will perish together.

— Isaiah 31:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 6:27

Can we trust armies and rulers?

He says “we need armies to protect our families,” but “we need to restrict our trust in them,” and “we need rulers… but you’ve got to restrict your trust in them because they are human beings.”

▶ Watch at 7:09

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Some trust in chariots, and some in horses; But we will remember the name of the LORD our God.

— Psalm 20:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:07

How much should we trust ourselves?

He says “you’ve got to restrict how much trust you put in yourself.” He cites “We should not trust in ourselves but in God.”

▶ Watch at 12:29

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Yes, we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves but in God who raises the dead,

— 2 Corinthians 1:9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 12:38

What is the difference between a believer and a disciple?

He says “a disciple is an obedient one, not a believer,” and “they’re responsible to the Word of God to obey it. They fail, they get up, they admit they’re wrong, they get up and they keep going.”

▶ Watch at 18:11

What does the young lion represent?

He says of Hosea 5:14, “I will be a young lion to Judah. That’s Jesus talking, the Lord talking.” He says “I told you the Bible explains itself.”

▶ Watch at 20:20

What does he say about the title “pastor”?

He says “putting a title on you as a pastor, that means nothing. Pastor is a job description.”

▶ Watch at 27:09

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“Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD to the shepherds: “Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flocks?

— Ezekiel 34:2 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 27:37

Does he say believers need a human priest?

He says “we’re all priests that can go in before God… We can go in Christ ourselves, we can hear from Him, and we can come out and we can be a blessing to others.”

▶ Watch at 28:05

Why does he say believers must speak?

He says “if you’re silent when you go out these doors, you’re not helping anybody,” and “Jesus was on earth for 30 years and never did anything, had no effect on the world, none, until He started speaking.”

▶ Watch at 30:25

Does he say America is special to God?

He says “America is no special child of God,” and “God loves the whole world.”

▶ Watch at 32:17

How does he say Assyria fell?

He says “Assyria shall fall by the sword, not of man,” and “185,000 died in one night of the Assyrian army. 185,000 by the sword of the angel.”

▶ Watch at 34:27

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Then the angel of the LORD went out, and killed in the camp of the Assyrians one hundred and eighty-five thousand; and when people arose early in the morning, there were the corpses—all dead.

— Isaiah 37:36 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 35:04

Do we have to wait for the rapture to reign?

He says “we shall reign in life. We don’t have to wait for the rapture. We don’t have to wait to go to heaven. We don’t have to wait to die.”

▶ Watch at 37:59

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For if by the one man’s offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)

— Romans 5:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 38:09

About this transcript

This transcript comes from YouTube’s automatic English captions, which supply the timing and the words. Punctuation, capitalization and paragraphing were added by hand, and obvious caption errors were corrected; his wording was not rewritten. “[unclear]” marks a word or name that was not clear. Editor notes: the captions garble a few words and these are marked [unclear] (about 21:15, 22:05, 23:15 and 41:00). He reads “Isaiah 31:1” as “31 1” and gives “Isaiah 37 31:7” in the captions for Isaiah 31:7; “Isaiah 5611” is Isaiah 56:11; “Revelations 1:” is written Revelation 1:5-6; and “2 Kings 1, I mean, Isaiah 32:1” is his own correction. “Jehosaphat” is written Jehoshaphat. He quotes the “Jeremiah 7” passage on lying words without giving the reference. In the passage about “Philippians 3” he says “Paul said this” without naming the book. This is a sensitive message: he calls humanists “atheists… homosexual activists… communists… socialists” (about 4:00), says “our civil government says homosexuals were born that way” (about 11:35), says “our government lies to us all the time” (about 12:20), names a well-known pastor and author as a leader of a social-reform movement (about 16:45), mentions “women’s health… birth control… an abortion” (about 19:10), says people will die Baptist or Catholic (about 14:35), says “we don’t need a Pope” (about 28:05), refers to a popular prophecy book “by a Jewish rabbi” and to 9/11 and a stock market fall as read into Jeremiah (about 32:15), and uses the word “Eskimo.” The caption says “5% of Christians now go to a home church” and he gives 185,000 as the number in Isaiah 37:36; these are as spoken. He also mentions a basketball and a boxing match without naming them. Select any time to jump to that moment on YouTube.

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