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From the sermonSeven Churches Part 1 · Pastor David G. Kincer▶ 0:00

In “Seven Churches Part 1,” Pastor David G. Kincer introduces the seven churches of Asia and works through Revelation 1: grace and peace, Jesus as faithful witness and firstborn of the dead, the church as kings and priests, and why he says every eye will see Jesus come. He also teaches a “formula” from John’s experience on Patmos for being touched by Jesus, and Jesus’ words, “Do not be afraid.”

Where were the seven churches of Asia, and where is Patmos?

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Short answer: He uses maps to show that “the province of Asia” was a province of the Roman Empire, near the Mediterranean and Black Seas, and that John was “banished to the island of Patmos” because of preaching “the word and the testimony of Christ.” He says that when you really stand up for Christ, “people are not going to like you.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 0:00 Now we’re going to look at the seven churches of Asia today, and we’re going to start with God’s view of the world. Right, there are the seven continents: United States, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, Antarctica and South America. I didn’t have it labeled, and that red dot up here above Africa is the province of Asia in the Roman Empire. During the Roman Empire, our time, they had a province there called Asia. Okay, and so God is looking down. Now, God knows there’s people all over the globe. The people at this time did not know there were people all over the globe, am I right? Yes. And so they have a very narrow view, because God hasn’t illuminated that there’s more people in the world besides Europe, Africa and Asia. And so God’s up to things, and he picks this area to work in. You know, he’s God, he can pick any, you know, he could have started in South America if he wanted to, he’s God, but so you understand.

▶ 1:12 And so now we see here the Mediterranean Sea up there, there’s the Black Sea, here’s Africa, here’s Egypt, and here’s Asia, that province of the Roman Empire. All right, over here on your right is the seven cities of the Asia province, and I brought these maps so you get a picture of what’s going on here. All right, now, the island of Patmos is right here, and John, as we learned last week, was banished to the island of Patmos because of him preaching the Word and the testimony of Christ. You see, when you really start preaching the Word and you really start standing up for Christ, people are not going to like you. It’s true. And in America, the church, we can tell is not very effective, because people don’t know the difference between us and the world, because we don’t stand for anything. We don’t like opposition. We, even in our home, man, if one of us wants to get spiritual and really move with God and the other family members don’t want to, big conflict, so we just give in. Could that be true? It starts right in the home and in the neighborhood and all the rest. We don’t want to, you know, rock the boat, we don’t want to stir any feathers. Well, you know, Jesus rocked the boat, Jesus stirred feathers; they killed him for it. They killed most of the apostles for it.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Revelation 1:9 (NKJV)

I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

— Revelation 1:9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:47

Why was John put on Patmos, and were the letters only for seven churches?

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Short answer: He says John was put in a pot of boiling oil and “it didn’t kill John,” so they banished him to Patmos. He says there were more than seven churches in Asia (such as those addressed in Colossians and Galatians), but because God is not “a respecter of persons” the messages were “for all his servants,” written “directly to you.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 2:54 And so John, by the emperor [unclear], I think, yeah, it was him, he wanted somebody to blame things on, just like in America we want to blame things on somebody or something. And so he picked the church, the weak ones, the ones that, well, weak in their mind, that they won’t fight back and, you know, they turn the other cheek, they go the extra mile. And so he had John put in a boiling pot of oil. Now, that would kill any normal man, but it didn’t kill John, and the Caesar of the Roman Empire and all the leaders didn’t get it. Nobody comes out of a pot of oil alive. And so when he didn’t die, they banished him to this island of Patmos, a barren island here in the Mediterranean Sea.

▶ 3:57 Okay, and this is where John... and there’s another picture of it, and I got this one because I want you to know there’s more churches in the province of Asia than these seven churches, and two of them are talked about: Colossi, the book of Colossians, and Galatia, the book of Galatians there. And therein Galatia is a region in the province of Asia, and so we have two epistles written to these two. So there’s more than seven churches here, but there’s only seven churches addressed. Got it? All right. And God is not a respecter of persons, so obviously these messages, as we showed last week, were for all his servants, all of God’s people, not just these seven churches. But we want you this morning to use your sanctified imagination, and this will be one of the churches: Ephesus, you know, [unclear]. I can’t even remember them all. [Unclear] and so forth. You pick a see; there’s seven areas here; just you’re one of the churches. Okay, and when these letters are written, they’re written directly to you, not to their neighbor, not to the church in Jerusalem.

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Scripture (NKJV)

Matthew 5:39 (NKJV)

But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.

— Matthew 5:39 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:17 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Acts 10:34 (NKJV)

Then Peter opened his mouth and said: “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality.

— Acts 10:34 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 4:36 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What do “grace” and “peace” mean in Revelation 1:4?

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Short answer: He says grace “means favor, divine influence,” so being under grace means being under “his divine influence,” which should show in how we dress, talk and live. He says peace is “the absence of a struggle,” and that God’s peace settles conflicts over right and wrong because “God has his own traditions, God has his own culture.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 5:36 So here it is, Revelation 1:4: “John, to the seven churches in Asia: Grace be unto you and peace.” Okay, here’s the revelation of the church. Jesus, this grace and peace comes from Jesus Christ. And so he’s out. Grace means favor, divine influence. All right, we today express the nature of what we give ourselves to: our hairstyle, our clothing, our tattoos, our nose rings, our way we talk is all reflections from the music, the movies, the TV, the reading material and the friends we run with. See, they influence us. But in the church world, Jesus Christ, divine, in divinity, influences us, and it influences our hairstyle, the way we dress, the way we talk, the way we live. You see, that’s grace. People say this grace thing without even knowing what they’re talking about: “The grace of God be upon you, I’m under grace.” Okay, you’re under his divine influence; it should show. Hallelujah.

▶ 6:54 And peace. Peace is the absence of a struggle. You see, when you have peace, you don’t have war. And people struggle with right and wrong. Americans today are struggling with their abortion, is it right or wrong; homosexuality, is it an acceptable lifestyle, is it right or wrong; racism; cultures, they struggle with cultural and traditions and philosophies of men. But see, God’s peace settles all those conflicts. You don’t have those conflicts anymore. Why? God has his own traditions, God has his own culture. Are you with me? I’m not struggling anymore. Now, it’s from him, Jesus, “which is, which was and is to come.” And that’s backed up in the Bible: Jesus existed before the world began, he came to this earth in the flesh, and he’s coming again. Amen. John the Baptist tells us he was, he is; he’s alive now, and he’s coming again.

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Scripture (NKJV)

Revelation 1:4-5 (NKJV)

John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,

— Revelation 1:4-5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:36

Who is Jesus in Revelation 1:5: the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead and the prince of the kings of the earth?

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Short answer: He says Jesus is the “faithful witness” who “only do the will of the Father,” the “first begotten of the dead” who “come out of the grave with an immortal body,” and the one who has “all authority.” He says that since his testimony “is backed up” by the rest of the Bible, “we need to stop following groups and follow Jesus and his word.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 8:02 “From the seven Spirits before His throne” (and we’ll deal with that later; it’s mentioned again), “from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness.” Jesus was faithful to only do the will of the Father. You say, we very loosely say, “Well, I’m a person of faith,” but we don’t do the will of the Father. You know, we have partial faith; we kind of do the will of the area of God that we are comfortable with. When we’re not comfortable with it, we find an excuse to get rid of it. Could that be true? Yeah. But Jesus was the faithful witness. He told the people, “I only do the will of the Father.” That’s why he didn’t go around healing everybody; only healed people that God told him to heal. Amen. Only the will of the Father, and so that’s backed up by the Scriptures.

▶ 8:57 “He is the firstborn,” the first begotten, “of the dead.” Why is he the first begotten of the dead? Because other people were raised from the dead, but they died again, but not Jesus. He come out of the grave with an immortal body. He would never die again, so he was the first begotten, birth from the dead, never to die again. And then the saints of old who were buried around there also rose after his resurrection. They became the first fruits of the resurrection, and we will also come out of the grave with an immortal body, never to die again. Hallelujah. And that’s backed up by the Scriptures. Are you with me? Got it? Now, this is super-duper stuff.

▶ 9:45 “And the prince of the kings of the earth.” The Bible tells us that all power in heaven and earth is given unto who? Jesus Christ. He has all authority; there’s no question about it. “And unto Him that loved us.” Did Jesus love us in the other books of the Bible? Did he give himself for us to prove that love? “Washed us from our sins in His own blood.” He died for us. Amen. So John is telling us exactly what the Bible has already told us, isn’t it? So we know that his testimony is backed up. This book is a good book, not like these people that get new revelations and then they find out they’re wrong and have to adjust them. You know, God doesn’t need adjusting. He comes with truth, and he sticks with truth, and it stays truth. Amen. So when a group has got to change things, there’s something wrong with that group. We need to stop following groups and follow Jesus and his Word. Hallelujah.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Revelation 1:5 (NKJV)

and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,

— Revelation 1:5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:09
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John 5:30 (NKJV)

I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

— John 5:30 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:41 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Matthew 27:52-53 (NKJV)

and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

— Matthew 27:52-53 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:22 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Matthew 28:18 (NKJV)

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

— Matthew 28:18 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:48 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What are the three revelations in the book, and what does it mean that we are kings and priests? (Revelation 1:6)

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Short answer: He says the book is the revelation of Jesus, of the church and of the judgment to come. He says the church is “supposed to be ruling” over sin, our body and our tongue, and that priests “minister to God” and then “minister to the people,” because “you have nothing to give the people” if you haven’t been touched by him.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 10:46 Now, this book by itself, as I told you before, we’re on an island and this book washes up: this book by itself will tell us everything we need to know, because it’s the revelation of Jesus, the revelation of the church, and the revelation of the judgment to come. Okay. Now, the things in red will be the revelation of Jesus, the things in white will be the revelation of the church, and the things in black will be the revelation of the judgment. Okay. Revelation 1:6: “He made us kings and priests to God and His Father.” A king is one that rules over a kingdom; he’s in authority, he has to be obeyed. We are people that will... the church is supposed to be ruling. We’re supposed to be ruling in this earth, we’re supposed to be ruling over sin, we’re supposed to be ruling over this body of ours, and our tongue. We were designed to be rulers with authority. Are you with me?

▶ 11:56 You see, the revelation of the church is very, very powerful, and we in America don’t get this because psychology has crept into the church, and, you know, everything is psychological. Well, God isn’t psychological. God is all powerful, and he designed his church to be what? Kings, rulers. Didn’t he create Adam and Eve to have dominion over the earth? Yes. He hadn’t stopped that. “And priests unto God.” Priests do two things. One of the things priests do is they minister to God, the very important thing. The priests went into the tabernacle and they ministered to the Lord. We ministered to the Lord through prayer and worship and praise, fasting, reading the Word, in the assembling together. We minister; that’s the way we minister to him and touch him, and that’s how we get influenced by him, and that’s what can make you effective, ‘cause the second of the priest is to minister to the people. But how you going to minister to the people if you haven’t ministered to him and got touched by him? You have nothing to give the people. And this is the problem also in many of the people of God: they don’t minister to the Lord and get touched by the Lord and get spoken to by the Lord, so they got something to say when they’re out here ministering to the people. But we were created to be priests that touch our God and have an effect on the people. That’s the revelation of the church. We’re not a bunch of wimps waiting for the rapture to come, and we’re not struggling with sin and all that; we’re growing into more righteousness every day, becoming kings in the earth, ruling. Can I hear an amen?

Scripture in this part

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Revelation 1:6 (NKJV)

and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

— Revelation 1:6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:24
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Genesis 1:28 (NKJV)

Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

— Genesis 1:28 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 12:24 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What does it mean to give Jesus “glory and dominion,” and why worship?

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Short answer: He says glory means honor, and “we give him honor when we take time to worship him.” He says he deserves it because “he died for us” and “he’s our everything,” so we should “lay down our pride,” lift our hands and voice and say “I love you, Jesus.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 13:55 Now, if nothing else, that was good for you to be here today to hear right there. “But to Him be glory and dominion forever.” Glory means honor, and see, we give him honor when we take time to worship him. Almost every Protestant church has a worship service. Why? Because it’s Bible; we’re supposed to take time to praise him and worship him. See, he deserves the honor; he died for us, folks. He empowers us, he’s our everything, and so he deserves honor. We got to shut ourself out and we got to lay down our pride and get rid of all the excuses, lift our hands, lift our voice and say, “I love you, Jesus.” Let’s try it. I love you, Jesus. It works. And he has dominion. He has, again, all power and all authority in heaven and in earth, the kingdom of darkness, all the nations. He’s in control of everything.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Revelation 1:6 (NKJV)

and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

— Revelation 1:6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 14:01

Does the Bible say Jesus comes more than once? (Revelation 1:7)

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Short answer: He says Jesus “comes with the clouds,” as in Acts 1, and that “the Bible only implies Jesus is coming one time,” because “every eye shall see him.” He says nowhere does it talk about Jesus coming two more times, and that “we have to twist Scriptures, stretch Scriptures to get this theory that man made up.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 14:54 And it says “He comes with the clouds.” That’s what it says in Acts chapter 1, that as Jesus ascended into the clouds, and also in Luke the angel said he’s going to come back in the same manner. He’s going to come with clouds. Come with what? Clouds. And this is where I disagree with pre-tribulation, post-tribulation, premillennial and all these theories, because the Bible only implies Jesus is coming one time. Look at this: “Every eye shall see Him.” Now, these movies that we get so hyped up about, where, you know, Jesus comes and every... the church is raptured, and the airplane, people are gone in the airplane and clothes are laying in there and everybody’s wondering, “What happened? What happened? What happened?” Every eye is going to know what happened. You see, we get all flattered by people making money off of doctrine they make up, and we don’t go to the book and find out if it’s truth.

▶ 15:58 When he comes in the clouds, does every eye see him? Does every eye see him? Yes. Hallelujah. Now, that should have liberated you, right there. Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about Jesus coming two more times. We have to twist Scriptures, stretch Scriptures to get this theory that man made up. Even Jesus, when he talked about his coming, said every eye will behold him; it’s like the lightning in the sky. Ain’t that right? And so the church just agrees with these theories of the second coming without really going and finding out what the book says. How even, you know, a theory isn’t proven. See, a law is proven. How many know that the evolution is a theory? Why? Because they can’t prove it. How many know the atomic theory is still a theory? Why? Because they can’t prove it; it doesn’t work in every situation. Are you out there? And how many of you know this pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, mid-wrath, premillennial and all this are just theories that men came up with? But we know for certain Jesus is coming. Amen.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)

Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

— Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:25
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Acts 1:9-11 (NKJV)

Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

— Acts 1:9-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 14:57
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Luke 17:24 (NKJV)

For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day.

— Luke 17:24 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 16:30 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What does he say about theories versus certainty, and who will wail when Jesus comes?

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Short answer: He says pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib and similar ideas “are just theories that men came up with” and “a law is proven,” but “we know for certain Jesus is coming.” He says “all families of the earth” will wail because “he’s coming to judge,” and “the ones that aren’t ready are going to be sorry.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 17:30 And we know every eye shall what? See him. “And they that pierced Him.” They that pierced him are resurrected out of the grave; they’re going to see him. “And all families of the earth,” all kind, all nations, all people of the earth, “shall wail.” Why are they wailing? Because he’s coming to judge, he’s coming to pass out rewards, and the ones that aren’t ready are going to be sorry. And that includes the people that killed him. Why? Because they’re raptured, because they’ve resurrected out of the grave. I’m sorry. Are you with me? Folks, you can’t get any plainer than that. You don’t have to stretch that, twist that, go over to Daniel and get some weird scripture to blend with it to make it work for your theory. That’s just as plain as the kindergarten “Run, Jane, run.”

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)

Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

— Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 17:36

Why do those who live godly face tribulation, even at home? (Revelation 1:9)

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Short answer: He says “if you’re not having troubles from people, you’re not living godly,” and that it will start in your home. He says “you don’t keep harmony in the home by giving in” to wrong, and that the church should be “an effective force in the earth,” not “a bunch of wimps waiting for Jesus to come again.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 18:42 “We are companions of tribulation.” Why? They that live godly in this present world will suffer. What? Will suffer what? Tribulation. If you’re not having troubles from people, you’re not living godly. And it will start with your home. When you decide to do something right and your spouse or your kids don’t want to do it, what happens? There’s a conflict, there’s trouble in the home. And I’ve heard this statement over and over: “Well, to keep harmony in the home, I’m going to...” You don’t keep harmony in the home by giving in to wrong. You just create more disharmony. Well, you create harmony in wrong, is what you’re, you know, you’re agreeing with wrong. Am I talking to the right folks this morning? Now, you young people, you need to get this in your cranial vacuum. This is a very important message. There is a judgment to come, and there is a God who is involved in the earth, and if he can’t be involved in the earth, he is worthless. If we got a God that can’t do anything, what good is that God?

▶ 20:09 And “I’m your companion in the kingdom”: the righteousness, peace, and joy, and power. See, the kingdom is in power; the Bible says it’s righteousness, it’s peace and joy, and we are companions. We all participate in that kingdom. There, the revelation of the church: we’re not a bunch of wimps waiting for Jesus to come again. We’re supposed to be an effective force in the earth that troubles people so much that they have problems with us because we don’t agree with them, and we live a different way and talk a different way, and we have troubles from them. “But I don’t like trouble.” Well, I don’t know if you read the Gospels, but Jesus had a lot of troubles. People say, “I want to be like Jesus.” Well, did you ever see his troubled side? They wanted to throw him off a cliff, they wanted to stone him, they wound up crucifying him, they called him a devil. You want to be like Jesus, but not that part. Are you with me? See, troubles, opposition is normal when you are living for God and trying to grow to God. Now, we got flaws in us, but we’re pursuing God, and people don’t like that, and the more we take on God’s nature, the more they don’t like us. But that’s how we draw the nations after Christ, is by taking on that nature.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Revelation 1:9 (NKJV)

I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

— Revelation 1:9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 18:42
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2 Timothy 3:12 (NKJV)

Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

— 2 Timothy 3:12 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 18:45 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Romans 14:17 (NKJV)

for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

— Romans 14:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 20:12 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What is “the patience of Jesus Christ,” and why must we wait? (James 5:7)

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Short answer: He says God is the farmer waiting “patiently for the fruit of the harvest to come to maturity,” and “he has a time schedule, and he’s not on ours.” He says that although people say the second coming has been preached for years, “we don’t know when he comes,” but “we know he doesn’t lie.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 21:47 “And the patience of Jesus Christ.” He says the farmer, the Bible says we... God is the husbandman, the farmer, and we are his field. The farmer waits patiently for the fruit of the field to be produced. See, God is waiting patiently for the fruit of the harvest to come to maturity, and so we got to what? Wait patiently. See, he has a time schedule, and he’s not on ours, so we got to just patiently live in this earth waiting for God to do his thing and reap in the harvest that he promised that he would reap, that his blood would bring. Do you understand that? You know, “Don’t believe this stuff. Well, we’ve heard the second coming for years and years and nothing happened.” Hey, we don’t know when he comes; the Bible plainly says that twice. Nobody knows. But we patiently wait, ‘cause we know he doesn’t lie, and he’s coming. And when he comes, they that are not ready are going to be mourning and wailing and grieving. Why? Because they know their time is up. They’ve been caught with their hand in the cookie jar. It’s all over, and it’s a little late to be sorry. Amen.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

James 5:7 (NKJV)

Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain.

— James 5:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:58 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Revelation 1:9 (NKJV)

I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

— Revelation 1:9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:48

What did John do on the Lord’s Day, and what is the formula to be touched by Jesus? (Revelation 1:10-12)

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Short answer: He says John, isolated from the church, was “in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day” by praying and worshiping, and that “we get in the Spirit by taking time to be before him, getting into the Word, and then we turn.” He contrasts John with what the church in America does on Sunday.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 23:16 “Now I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day.” That’s Sunday, the day Jesus rose. Here he is, boiled in oil, taken over to this barren island, and he’s in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day. Okay, Sunday came, and he did what he did on every Sunday: he prayed. He can’t be with the church now, because they got him isolated from the church, but that’s all right; he’s a one-church man now. He assembled before God, he’s praying, he’s worshiping. See, Jesus said, “I inhabit the praises of My people.” God is Spirit, and so that’s a spiritual act. The Bible says his Word is Spirit, so he’s in the Word, he’s doing what he did every Sunday before he was boiled in oil. And what does the church in America do on Sunday? Watch sports on TV, go hang gliding, surfing. But not John. Why? He gave his... he knew the importance of giving time to God, getting in that Spirit.

▶ 24:23 Now, if you want to be touched by Jesus, here’s a real formula. He’s going to give us a real formula. First, he was assembling before God and doing spiritual things on what day? The Lord’s Day, on a Sunday. Now, you can do it on any day, but, you know, Sunday is the day when the church gathered together. “And I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet.” Saying, okay, you heard something, and we’ve learned that God comes to speak. And then he said, the Bible says, “I turned to see.” You see, we got to repent. We got to turn from our ways, from sinful ways to his ways. We get in the Spirit by taking time to be before him, getting into the Word, and then we turn. We see our ways are not his ways, and we say, “God, I’m turning from my...” Are you with me? See, we get in the Spirit and then we turn. How many has turned, repented? See, you’re a candidate to have Jesus touch you.

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Revelation 1:10 (NKJV)

I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet,

— Revelation 1:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 23:17
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Psalm 22:3 (NKJV)

But You are holy, Enthroned in the praises of Israel.

— Psalm 22:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 23:49 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What did John see when he turned around? (Revelation 1:12-16)

▶ Watch this part (25:44)

Short answer: He reads the vision of one “liken to the Son of Man” among seven golden candlesticks, with white hair, eyes like fire and a sharp two-edged sword from his mouth, which he calls the “Word of God.” He compares it to the Mount of Transfiguration, “his heavenly form, his spiritual form.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 25:44 Let’s keep reading: “I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks, and in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks one liken to the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to his foot.” You can see a picture of that up there. That was the same thing that happened on the Mount of Transfiguration, when he was transfigured into his heavenly form, his spiritual form. This is what he looked like. “Clothed with a garment down to his foot, he was girded about with a golden girdle. His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes were a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass, and His voice as the sound of many waters. And He had in His right hand seven stars, and out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword,” which we know is the what? Word of God. “And His countenance was as the sun shining in his strength.” And I picked this picture because they didn’t have a sword coming out of his mouth; the guy who drew it knew that it was the Word of God. You know, some pictures have this sword come out of Jesus’s mouth. My God, it’s the Word of God. All right, “and His countenance was as the sun shining in his strength,” and “when I saw Him, I fell at His feet.”

Scripture in this part

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Revelation 1:12-16 (NKJV)

Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength.

— Revelation 1:12-16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 25:48
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Matthew 17:2 (NKJV)

and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light.

— Matthew 17:2 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 26:05 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

How did John get touched by Jesus, and can we use the same steps? (Revelation 1:17)

▶ Watch this part (27:16)

Short answer: He says John’s steps were: do spiritual things, turn from his ways, and bow before him, and then “Jesus touched him.” He says “you humble yourself to worship and pray” and “repent of your sins and turn to the living God,” and “this is a formula that will work, folks.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 27:16 Now here it is. I get in the Spirit by doing spiritual things, I turn from my ways and wrong ways to him, and then I bow before him. Wow. Are you there? See, this is a formula that will work, folks, I’m telling you. You humble yourself to worship and pray, you humble yourself and repent of your sins and turn to the living God. You may be struggling with some things, but you’re repenting, you’re moving forward, and you get on your knees before him in prayer and worship, and these are the results: “And He laid His right hand upon me, saying to me...” See, then Jesus touched him. You got it? You want a formula to get touched by God? John just gave it to us. Hallelujah. You know, we want things without doing anything, and John got touched because he did some basic things.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Revelation 1:17 (NKJV)

And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.

— Revelation 1:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 27:59

Who are the “angels” of the seven churches? (Revelation 1:20)

▶ Watch this part (28:26)

Short answer: He says an angel is “a messenger,” so it “could be the leaders of the churches; we don’t really know here.” He says those who take responsibility for teaching “are judged with a much more severe judgment,” so “your opinions are got to go.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 28:26 Now, then he says the seven stars are what? The seven angels of the seven churches of Asia, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches. Okay, an angel is a messenger. John the Baptist was a messenger; it’s the same word for angel. Okay, so it could be the leaders of the churches; we don’t really know here. But we know this: why is he writing to an angel when they’re right there at his throne all the time? So he’s writing to what? The leaders, the one that’s bringing the message to the people, taking on the responsibility of teaching the people the Word of God. And remember, they that take that responsibility are judged with a much more severe judgment. So you don’t want to take on the responsibility of telling people who Jesus is and what right and wrong is unless you’re willing to accept the severe judgment if you teach wrong. And that means your opinions are got to go. Could that be an amen? So I submit to you that it is the leaders that took the responsibility of the church; people who take responsibility, God gives authority to.

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Revelation 1:20 (NKJV)

The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands which you saw are the seven churches.

— Revelation 1:20 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 28:28
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James 3:1 (NKJV)

My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.

— James 3:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 29:11 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

Why does Jesus say “do not be afraid,” and what are the keys of Hades and Death? (Revelation 1:17-19)

▶ Watch this part (29:48)

Short answer: He says “don’t be afraid of Jesus,” because “he’s not going to do anything and require anything out of you that he doesn’t empower you to handle.” He says Jesus holds the keys of Hades and Death, so “you don’t have to die and be under the control of eternal death,” and tells John to write what he has seen, what he is seeing and what will take place.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 29:48 Now, first thing he says, Revelation 1:17: “Do not be afraid.” And, church, I can’t admonish you enough: don’t be afraid of Jesus. I know so many people are so afraid God’s going to expose something they don’t want to expose, they going to make them act the way they don’t want to act, or send them to Siberia, to the mission field to preach the gospel. You know, they got this weird thing about “don’t be afraid of him.” He’s not going to do anything and require anything out of you that he doesn’t empower you to handle. Relax. Amen. “Don’t be afraid. I am the first and the last. I am He who lives and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore.” Repeating that, “I have the keys of Hades,” the abiding place of the dead, “and of Death.” Who has the keys? Jesus. Keys unlock. And so you don’t have to die and be under the control of eternal death, and he will put you in the right abiding place of the dead, which is paradise, Abraham’s bosom. “Write the things which you have seen, the things which you are seeing, and the things which will take place after this.” Now.

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Revelation 1:17-19 (NKJV)

And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.

— Revelation 1:17-19 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 29:51
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Luke 16:22 (NKJV)

So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.

— Luke 16:22 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 31:04 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

More questions this message answers

Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.

What does he say about not wanting to rock the boat?

He says “we don’t like opposition” and “rock the boat,” but “Jesus rocked the boat, Jesus stirred feathers; they killed him for it.”

▶ Watch at 1:12

What does he say happened when John was put in boiling oil?

He says it “would kill any normal man, but it didn’t kill John,” and “nobody comes out of a pot of oil alive,” so they banished him to “a barren island.”

▶ Watch at 2:54

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I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

— Revelation 1:9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:54

Does he say the letters were only for the seven churches?

No. He says God is “not a respecter of persons” so the messages “were for all his servants, all of God’s people,” and they are “written directly to you.”

▶ Watch at 3:57

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Then Peter opened his mouth and said: “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality.

— Acts 10:34 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 4:36

How does he define grace?

He says “grace means favor, divine influence,” and being under grace means “you’re under his divine influence; it should show.”

▶ Watch at 5:36

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John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,

— Revelation 1:4-5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:36

How does he define peace?

He says “peace is the absence of a struggle,” and that God’s peace settles conflicts: “I’m not struggling anymore.”

▶ Watch at 6:54

Scripture (NKJV)

John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,

— Revelation 1:4-5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 6:54

Why does he say Jesus did not heal everybody?

He says Jesus was “the faithful witness” who only did the Father’s will, so he “only healed people that God told him to heal.”

▶ Watch at 8:02

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I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

— John 5:30 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 8:41

What does he mean that Jesus is the “first begotten of the dead”?

He says others were raised but “died again, but not Jesus,” who “come out of the grave with an immortal body,” and “we will also come out of the grave with an immortal body, never to die again.”

▶ Watch at 8:57

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and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,

— Revelation 1:5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:57

What does he say about groups that keep changing their teachings?

He says “God doesn’t need adjusting. He comes with truth, and he sticks with truth, and it stays truth,” so “when a group has got to change things, there’s something wrong with that group.”

▶ Watch at 9:45

What does he say the red, white and black print represents?

He says “the things in red will be the revelation of Jesus, the things in white will be the revelation of the church and the things in black will be the revelation of the judgment.”

▶ Watch at 10:46

What two things does he say priests do?

He says priests “minister to God” through “prayer and worship and praise, fasting, reading the word, in the assembling together,” and then “minister to the people.”

▶ Watch at 11:56

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and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

— Revelation 1:6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:56

Does he say the Bible teaches two more comings of Jesus?

No. He says “nowhere in the Bible does it talk about Jesus coming two more times,” and that “every eye will behold him; it’s like the lightning in the sky.”

▶ Watch at 15:58

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Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

— Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:58

Does he say Christians should expect trouble?

Yes. He says “troubles, opposition is normal when you are living for God,” and notes that Jesus was threatened, stoned and crucified: “You want to be like Jesus, but not that part.”

▶ Watch at 20:09

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Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

— 2 Timothy 3:12 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 20:09

What does he say not to be afraid of?

He says “don’t be afraid of Jesus,” because people fear that God will “expose something they don’t want to expose,” but “relax.”

▶ Watch at 29:48

Scripture (NKJV)

And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.

— Revelation 1:17-19 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 29:51

About this transcript

This transcript comes from YouTube’s automatic English captions, which supply the timing and the words. Punctuation, capitalization and paragraphing were added by hand, and obvious caption errors were corrected; his wording was not rewritten. “[unclear]” marks a word or name that was not clear. Editor note: the captions garble the name of the Roman emperor he mentions and the names of some of the seven churches he says he cannot remember, shown as [unclear] and not guessed. He voices strong opinions about America’s church, the rapture and millennial theories, abortion, homosexuality and psychology; these are his own views. He says “Revelation 17” where the verse is Revelation 1:17, and uses “Colossi” and “Galatia” for the cities of the letters to the Colossians and Galatians. Select any time to jump to that moment on YouTube.

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