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From the sermonResurrection Part 1 · Pastor David G. Kincer▶ 0:00

In “Resurrection Part 1,” Pastor David G. Kincer teaches from 1 Corinthians 15:35 on, where Paul answers how the dead are raised and with what body. He follows Paul’s common-sense examples of seeds, flesh and the sun, moon and stars, then describes the supernatural body raised in power, and Jesus as the last Adam who gives life now. He ends with the change at the last trumpet, Jesus’ return, and letting God be God about the end times.

How are the dead raised, and with what body do they come?

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Short answer: He says Paul explains the resurrection of the dead in great detail starting at 1 Corinthians 15:35, and that Paul saw Jesus personally after He ascended. The two questions are honest ones from people with common sense, he says, like the Sadducees, who knew the body decayed, and Paul answers by calling them “fool,” which means stupid or without reason, and by arguing from common sense and then Scripture.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 0:00 We are in 1 Corinthians 15:35. He’s going to explain the resurrection of the dead in great detail here. He saw Jesus personally after Jesus had ascended. I know that he has much more clout, much more understanding, much more truth than any author in this present day. Could that be an amen? And we need to get what Paul is saying in the depths of our heart. Here he starts out in verse 35 by saying, “But some will say, ‘How are the dead raised? And with what body do they come?’” These are two good questions. Now this [unclear] is not like some among you that didn’t believe in truth. This [unclear] are people that have common sense questions about biblical matters that they cannot seem to embrace because they just don’t fit into the natural understanding of the human mind.

▶ 1:18 All right, so they’re saying, “Okay, we get resurrected. What do we look like when we come out? What kind of form do we have, and what is this?” See, it’s a good question: “How are the dead raised, and with what body do they come?” Excellent question. Just like when the Sadducees and these people that could not understand how you could have life after death. You see, they know the body decayed and went into the grave, and back in those days there were no caskets; you went into the grave and the worms ate you and the body consumed itself and you wound up dust. And so they challenged Jesus by saying, you know, “How can there be a resurrection of the dead when this woman had seven husbands? You know, which husband is going to be her husband up in heaven?” See, they lacked understanding in spiritual things, but they didn’t lack understanding in natural things, and it created questions in them. Are some of you like that? Yeah. So some of us have questions, and they’re honest questions, but watch how Paul answers.

▶ 2:38 Okay. “Fool.” Fool. Now the word “fool” means several things. It means you’re stupid, you know, and that’s how I feel when I get in the presence of God and He’s talking to me. I feel real stupid, ignorant, same thing. Egotistical: you exaggerate your selfish, self-centered intellect, your own importance, above what is common sense around you. Now that’s good stuff. Now that fits in, you know; we exaggerate our intellect above. And Paul is saying you’re foolish, but also part of the definition of “fool” is without reason or without common sense. He said you guys are missing common sense here. Let’s look at this through common sense. And remember, Paul approaches everything through common sense and then Scriptures. You noticed that in 1 Corinthians, right? And that’s what threw me off for a while. I thought his common sense were Scriptures, when he’s just illustrating things in life, and they may not be in Scripture at all, but they work because they are common sense. Yeah. Okay, how many can say, “Well, okay, I could be without common sense in some of these areas, I could be a fool”? You’re halfway there. See, when we think of ourselves more highly than we ought, we open ourself up to a fall.

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1 Corinthians 15:35 (NKJV)

But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?”

— 1 Corinthians 15:35 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 0:41
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Matthew 22:23-28 (NKJV)

The same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, saying: “Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. Now there were with us seven brothers. The first died after he had married, and having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. Likewise the second also, and the third, even to the seventh. Last of all the woman died also. Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had her.”

— Matthew 22:23-28 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:36 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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1 Corinthians 15:36 (NKJV)

Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies.

— 1 Corinthians 15:36 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:42

What does a seed teach us about the resurrection?

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Short answer: He says Paul’s first example is plants: a seed has to die before it can live again and produce a body and fruit. He says the seed germinates and comes alive on the inside first, and that is how we start, “on the inside first,” then comes the outward fruit, and every seed gets its own body.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 4:30 So now let’s listen to Paul. He’s going to explain the resurrection, how it’s happening and what body do they come up with. “That which you sow is not made alive except it dies.” Now he’s talking about plant seeds. Okay, example number one, he’s going to use plants. He’s going to use human, uh, fleshly bodies, and he’s going to use the celestial bodies, the universe. Example number one: “What you sow, you do not sow that living body that shall be, but bare grain,” naked grain, just the grain, just the seed, “perhaps wheat or some other.” Now you see pictures up here. I have a tomato plant. That’s the body right here, that’s the living body, and it has a stalk and it holds these tomatoes and it produces tomatoes. But to the left of that is a living seed. That seed’s not dead yet.

▶ 5:36 And see, he’s using common sense. The seed has to die before it can live again and produce a body and fruit, isn’t that right? See, he’s approaching it from a very common-sense approach. Over here on the left is a dead tomato seed that if you put it in the ground, and the right temperature and the right moisture, it will germinate, come alive on the inside first, and that’s how we start, on the inside first. Then comes forth the outward fruit and the body. “But God gives it a body as it pleased Him, and to every seed his own body.” And this is where the evolutionist just can’t figure this out. God made it at the beginning that like kinds produce like kinds; they don’t produce half and half. All right, you mate a snake with a bird, you won’t come up with a flying snake. You won’t come up with anything. It won’t germinate, it won’t work. Got it?

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

1 Corinthians 15:36-38 (NKJV)

Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—perhaps wheat or some other grain. But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.

— 1 Corinthians 15:36-38 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 4:40

What do the different kinds of flesh and the sun, moon and stars show about the resurrection?

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Short answer: He says Paul’s second and third common-sense examples are that all flesh is not the same, and that celestial and earthly bodies each have their own glory. He says the sun, the moon and the stars each have a different look, glory and purpose, and that Paul is using common sense before he has quoted a Scripture, and he applies the first example to evolution and the age of the earth.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 6:59 Now, example number two: “All flesh is not the same flesh, but one of flesh of men, of beast, fish, and birds.” Okay, that’s just common sense. We know that horses have flesh, but they’re not human beings; fish have flesh, but they’re not horses. Okay, and if the evolutionist would just use some common sense, they wouldn’t come up with these ridiculous billions-of-years-old nonsense. Every time they come into a problem, they have to make the earth older to solve it. You ever notice that? See, when I was in school, the earth was a million years old, and they made movies on it: 1 million B.C., 1 million B.C. Then they run into problems, so they went to 2 million, 5 million, 10 million, now we’re at 4 billion. Every time they run into a problem, just solve it by extending the age of creation.

▶ 7:56 “There is also celestial, heavenly bodies, and terrestrial, earthly bodies, but the glory of this celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.” Okay, we got the universe up there, we got the earth, the planets, everything, and he goes on to talk about the sun, the moon and the stars have all a different structure, a different look, a different way. All right. He’s just using what? Common sense. See, to these people who have these questions, he’s approaching them first with just common sense. Hadn’t he quoted a Scripture yet? I love this guy. Any educated person that really learned in school could understand this stuff. Any uneducated person who dropped out of school can understand this stuff, isn’t that right? It’s just common sense; you can’t argue with it. Yeah, they’re all different. They’re all different. Now he’s going to, there’s the sun, the moon, the stars, all in one, there’s the moon, the sun behind it, and so forth. They all have a different look, a different glory, a different purpose.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

1 Corinthians 15:39-41 (NKJV)

All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

— 1 Corinthians 15:39-41 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:01

What kind of body will we have in the resurrection?

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Short answer: He says the body is sown in corruption and raised in incorruption, sown in dishonor and raised in honor, sown in weakness and raised in power, and sown a natural body and raised a spiritual body. “Spiritual,” he says, means supernatural, so the body comes out of the grave a supernatural body that does not decay anymore and lives forever.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 9:16 And then he plainly says, “So also is the resurrection of the dead.” You see, he made his three common-sense examples, and then he says this is the way the resurrection of the dead is. “The body is sown in corruption”: decay. We all know that when you take your last breath, you start rotting. I don’t care how beautiful you kept yourself while you were alive, you start rotting immediately. In three days no one wants to be around you. We’re a decaying people. “It is raised in incorruption,” or eternal, or perpetual, never-ending. You see, “it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in honor; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.” Supernatural power is how it’s raised. “It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.” The word “spiritual” means not human, not natural, not of the natural things of this universe; it’s supernatural. So the body comes out of the grave a what? Supernatural body that doesn’t decay anymore, that lives forever.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

1 Corinthians 15:42-44 (NKJV)

So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

— 1 Corinthians 15:42-44 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:18

Did Jesus have blood in His body after He rose from the dead?

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Short answer: He says Jesus’ blood drained out when He died, and when He came out of the grave the holes were still in His hands and side but no blood dripped, because He has a supernatural, spiritual body and does not need blood. He says the saints of old who rose with Him came out the same way, since God can get wherever the dust is.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 10:58 Now here’s Jesus Christ. I used Him because He came out of the grave. His blood drained out, He died, He had no blood in Him. Now He was dead, He comes out of the grave, and lo and behold, the holes are still in His hands and in His side. They’re still there, but there’s no blood dripping out. Why? Because He has a supernatural body now, a spiritual body. He don’t need blood. See, us natural people need blood. The Bible says blood is the life of the flesh. We need that blood circulating through us to get the oxygen and the minerals and the vitamins where they should be so our body functions. But when Jesus rose, see, He didn’t have any blood, and He didn’t have a decaying body anymore. There was a transition in that resurrection, and the saints of old that rose with Him at that same time, they came out the same way. Well, you say, “How in the world? Those saints of old, you know, they went to dust, the worms ate them and pooped them out, and, you know, how does God, how’s that work?” Listen, He can get wherever that dust is. We go back to just a handful of dust. You know, I mean, as big as you are, after a year or so you’re just a handful of nothing. That’s it. Are you there?

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

John 20:27 (NKJV)

Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

— John 20:27 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:17 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Leviticus 17:11 (NKJV)

For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’

— Leviticus 17:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:37 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

Will a sick or frail body be raised as a spiritual body?

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Short answer: He says no matter how frail or sick this body is, it is going to be raised a spiritual body, and a person who accepted Christ and wasted away will be glad, “because certainly you don’t want to come back with that old body.” He uses a person in the last stage of AIDS as his example, and in this section he also makes his own statements about homosexuality, AIDS statistics and government policy.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 12:42 Now, He came out with a supernatural body, so did the saints of old who rose with Him. Here is a guy dying of AIDS in the last stage of AIDS. You know, the immunity system’s broken down, they’re just wasting away, sores come upon them, it’s a horrible death, and anyone promoting homosexuality is sentencing people to a horrible death. 91% of all people that have AIDS are homosexuals or bisexuals. The rest just happen to get it because their parents, their children and their parents pass it on to them somehow, and blood transfusions and so forth, dirty needles and whatever. But 91%, when you agree that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle, you are sentencing people to this kind of death right here, and there is no plague on earth that our government does not quarantine you from except AIDS. Are you looking at me? Yeah, it is sad that 2% of the people in America can have that big an influence on America’s thinking. But anyway, this guy, let’s say he accepted Christ, and I know some that did, and they wasted away. God didn’t heal them and they died. But as frail as this body is, as sick as it is, it’s going to be raised a spiritual body, and he’s going to be glad, because certainly you don’t want to come back with that old body. Amen. You see?

Who is the last Adam, and what is the tree of life?

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Short answer: He says Paul writes that the first Adam became a living being and the last Adam became a life-giving spirit, which means Jesus is more than a prophet or a good man: He gives life. He says Adam’s mistake was embracing the tree of knowledge of good and evil over the tree of life, that Jesus is that tree of life, and that you can have knowledge with life.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 14:39 Now he’s going to go into the spiritual, the Scriptures. This is his style: “And so it is written.” Now where is it written in the Bible, the Scriptures, that “the first Adam became a living being” and “the last Adam became a life-giving spirit”? A life-giving spirit. Wow. Jesus is more than a prophet. Jesus is more than a good man. Jesus gives you life. And you can accept religion if you want to, but I like the life. Adam made his mistake by embracing the tree of knowledge of good and evil over the tree of life. Jesus is that tree of life. And you can get so into the knowledge of God’s Word that you are worthless; you’re just a proud person throwing Scriptures out that you don’t even know. But you can get that knowledge with life, and that life comes from Jesus Christ. All right, the Scripture, Genesis 2:7, “God formed man out of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul,” or living being. It says here in Corinthians, you see, that’s the first Adam. Now the last Adam, Jesus, is a life-giving Spirit.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

1 Corinthians 15:45 (NKJV)

And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

— 1 Corinthians 15:45 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 14:45
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Genesis 2:7 (NKJV)

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

— Genesis 2:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:54

Do we have to wait for the end time to be resurrected and have life?

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Short answer: He says no: there are two kinds of deaths, so “I don’t have to wait to die and be resurrected at the end time to find life.” We were dead in trespasses and sin, and when we come to Jesus He resurrects us and makes us alive, forgiving all trespasses, which is why anyone in Christ is a new creature.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 16:16 For as the Father, in John 5:21, raises the dead. Who raises the dead? The Father. See, you can’t get away from this plurality, Godhead, that is one, all through the Scriptures. You can’t get away from the fact that there’s a plurality in the Godhead, yet that the God is what? One God. “Raised us from the dead, and even so the Son gives life to whom He will.” The Father raises the dead and gives those dead life, and Jesus raises the dead and gives life to whom He wills. So we’re talking about two kinds of deaths here. Do you see that? See, I don’t have to wait to die and be resurrected at the end time to find life. I can die now, and Jesus will resurrect me and give me what? Life. Okay, are you watching this? Are you ready for this?

▶ 17:30 Colossians 2:13, Paul said, “You being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has” what? Made alive. See, He gave you life. “He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you” what? Of a few sins? All sins, all trespass, all break. Trespass means you violated the law. Doesn’t matter if it’s one or 100, He forgives you of all. You see, so Jesus, so we were dead in what? Trespasses and sin. We come to Jesus and He what? Resurrects us. That’s why the Bible says, “If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things are passed away, behold, all things are made new.” Why? He resurrected us out of trespasses and sin, which we were dead in. Got it? It’s powerful. See.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

John 5:21 (NKJV)

For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.

— John 5:21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 16:17
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Colossians 2:13 (NKJV)

And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

— Colossians 2:13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 17:30
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2 Corinthians 5:17 (NKJV)

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

— 2 Corinthians 5:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 18:15 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What does it mean to bear the image of the heavenly Man?

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Short answer: He says the spiritual is not first but the natural, and afterward the spiritual: the first man was of the earth, made of dust, and the second man is from heaven. He says the second Adam is God Himself, to give us life, and as we have borne the image of the man of dust we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man, and that Jesus’ character is not what we were brought out of.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 18:43 Now “however, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. The first man was of the earth,” made of dust. “The second man is from heaven,” Jesus. God, the second Adam, is God Himself to give us life. Powerful. “As we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.” Now, would Jesus be a homosexual? Would Jesus be an adulterer? Would He commit incest? Would He rob? No. See, that’s not His character, and we were brought out of trespasses and sin to become a new creature like Him. Now, not at the resurrection, isn’t that good? Powerful. Does He have the power to back it up? Absolutely. If we can get past religion and our own beliefs and our own shortcomings of common sense, we can experience this stuff.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

1 Corinthians 15:46-49 (NKJV)

However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.

— 1 Corinthians 15:46-49 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 18:44

Can flesh and blood inherit the kingdom of God?

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Short answer: He says 2 Corinthians 3:18 says we are changed into the same image by this life-giving Jesus, and that Jesus is in heaven but His Spirit is on earth, so His presence is still with us. He then turns to the mystery of the resurrection, where Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:50 that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 20:18 2 Corinthians 3:18, “We all,” how many of us, “with an open face beholding it as in a glass the glory of the Lord,” the Word of God, “are changed into the same image.” Now look at this, this is tremendous. We are changed into the same image. How are we changed? By this life-giving Jesus. See, we’re changed the same, “even as by the Spirit of the Lord.” There’s that third part of the plurality, Godhead. Yes, Jesus is in heaven, but His Spirit is on earth. He poured His Spirit back upon the earth, so His presence is what? Still with us. Now he’s going to give us the mystery of the resurrection. “Flesh and blood,” he says in verse 50, 1 Corinthians 15, “cannot inherit the kingdom of God.” You see, you can’t inherit the kingdom of God if you got flesh and blood.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

2 Corinthians 3:18 (NKJV)

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

— 2 Corinthians 3:18 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 20:18
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1 Corinthians 15:50 (NKJV)

Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.

— 1 Corinthians 15:50 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:14

What does “we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed” mean?

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Short answer: He says we are in the kingdom now, but there is a time when it will be a real thing ruling the earth, and flesh and blood cannot inherit that. “Sleep” means die, and the Bible uses it because we do not stay in the grave: whether sinner or saint it is a temporary period. Those in the grave will come out with a new spiritual body, and those alive will be changed “in a moment and a twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 21:29 In this revealed kingdom that’s coming, we are in the kingdom, don’t get me wrong. We are in the kingdom, but there is a time when that kingdom is going to be a real thing in the earth and not just in our hearts. It’s going to be ruling the earth. Okay, so flesh and blood can’t inherit that, “nor does corruption, decay, inherit incorruption,” or eternity. I’m going to tell you a secret, Paul says, a hidden secret. I’m going to tell you something nobody else knows. I was called to the third heaven, and I know something you don’t know. Well, he got my attention when I read that: “We shall not all sleep.” What’s the other word for sleep? Die. Why does he use the word “sleep”?

▶ 22:29 Because we don’t stay in that grave, folks. Whether you are a sinner or a saint, that’s a temporary period of time. You’re going to come out, just like people wake out of their sleep. So the Bible uses the word “sleep” for death a lot, because it explains that we are in the ground temporarily; we’re only dead physically temporarily. Got it? Now, “but we shall all be changed”: those that are in the grave come out, spiritual body, a new body, no flesh, no blood, no decaying flesh, I should say. “We who are alive”: there’s a group of people going to be alive. Now let me tell you, we who are alive are going to be changed just like those in the grave came out of the grave. We’re going to be, only we’re not going to die, we’re going to be changed just like that, faster than I can snap my finger, bam, your blood’s gone, your skin is changed, you have an eternal body now. Just like that, pow. Hallelujah. “In a moment and a twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet, for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be” what? Changed. And that’s why Christ came in the first place. He wants to change us from a sinner to one living righteous, and when we get resurrected in that last day, He wants to change us into an everlasting body that will never die again and will live with Him forever. Hallelujah. So Jesus, when He came out of the grave, did not have this decaying flesh anymore, neither did He have blood. He had a supernatural body. I can handle that.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

2 Corinthians 12:2 (NKJV)

I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven.

— 2 Corinthians 12:2 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 22:09 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (NKJV)

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

— 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 22:21

What will we be like when Jesus appears?

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Short answer: He says 1 John 3:2 tells us we are sons of God now, and it does not yet appear what we shall be, “but we know this, that when He shall appear, we shall be like Him.” He says that means we will have a supernatural body like His, with no more blood and an eternal body.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 24:33 Hallelujah. Now we understand what 1 John 3:2 says: “Beloved, now we are sons of God,” we get an inheritance now, “and it does not yet appear what we shall be,” or we don’t know yet what we shall be, “but we know this, that when He shall appear, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.” We’re going to be what? Like Him. We’re going to have that [unclear] body now. No more blood. We got an eternal body, and we are going to see the same body coming out of heaven. Isn’t that beautiful? Oh, I think it’s tremendous. Hallelujah. We’re going to be like Him. What? We’re going to have a supernatural body like He has.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

1 John 3:2 (NKJV)

Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

— 1 John 3:2 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 24:36

What does the Bible say about Jesus’ return, the trumpet and the judgment?

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Short answer: He reads 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Matthew 16:27 and 24:31 and 2 Thessalonians 1:7, saying the Lord will descend with a shout and the trumpet of God, the dead in Christ will rise first, and the Son of Man will reward every man according to his works. He says the sheep and the goats will be separated, and that the goats who mistreated people, especially God’s people, will go into the fire reserved for Satan and his angels, so “you better be treating people good.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 25:31 Speaking of the resurrection, the Lord Himself, in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, “shall descend from heaven with a shout, and with the voice of the archangel, and the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” Matthew 16:27, “For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then at that time He shall reward every man according to his works.” Matthew 24:31, “He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from the four corners of the earth.” It’s going to happen.

▶ 26:19 “When the Son of Man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then shall He sit on the throne of His glory, and before Him shall be gathered all nations, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.” And it goes on to say that the goats, they that have mistreated people, especially God’s people, will go into the fire that’s reserved for Satan and his angels. That’s what it says. So you better be treating people good, especially God’s people. I’m telling you, they may be young believers and got a lot of flaws; love them. Hallelujah. The rewards are worth it. Could I hear an amen? 2 Thessalonians 1:7, “The Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire, taking vengeance on them that know not God and that do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.” Wow. “Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction.” Is it possible I can be a believer and not an obeyer?

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1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (NKJV)

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

— 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 25:33
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Matthew 16:27 (NKJV)

For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.

— Matthew 16:27 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 25:51
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Matthew 24:31 (NKJV)

And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

— Matthew 24:31 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 26:03
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Matthew 25:31-33 (NKJV)

“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.

— Matthew 25:31-33 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 26:20 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 (NKJV)

and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

— 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 27:07

When will death be swallowed up in victory?

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Short answer: He says it is possible to be a believer and not an obeyer, as with the Pharisees and Sadducees, who could quote Scripture and preach yet would not obey. He then reads that when this corruptible puts on incorruption and this mortal puts on immortality, death is swallowed up in victory, which he says is quoted from Isaiah 25:8.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 27:31 Yeah. Is there an example in the Bible of that? Yeah. What’s the big one? The Pharisees and the Sadducees, the Jews during Jesus’s day. He looked at them and said, “You’re the children of the Devil, because you do the deeds of Satan.” And yet they were believers. They could quote Scripture, they preached, and they made converts, and yet they would not obey, and He says you’re going to be punished too. Revelation 1:7, “He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him.” “For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.” Mortal is a dying body; immortality is a non-dying body. “And when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, ‘Death is swallowed up in victory,’” which he is quoting from Isaiah 25:8, where Jesus is talking Himself through the prophet and says, “I will swallow death up in victory, and I will wipe all tears from their eyes.” There in Isaiah, hallelujah. Jesus is going to do it all.

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John 8:44 (NKJV)

You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

— John 8:44 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 27:43 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)

Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

— Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 28:00
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1 Corinthians 15:53-54 (NKJV)

For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”

— 1 Corinthians 15:53-54 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 28:08
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Isaiah 25:8 (NKJV)

He will swallow up death forever, And the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from all faces; The rebuke of His people He will take away from all the earth; For the LORD has spoken.

— Isaiah 25:8 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 28:34

What is the last enemy overcome, and can we chart the end times?

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Short answer: He says there is something that transpires before God manifests His kingdom and puts enemies under, and “these people that try to put all their little charts together are way off.” He says nobody understood the procedure when Jesus came the first time until it happened, so “we need to let God be God,” and if we love Him we will be like Him when He comes.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 28:54 Right now, what’s the last enemy that is overcome? So all the other enemies now are what? Overcome. Common sense: is Satan an enemy? Yeah. So see, there’s something that transpires before this. God’s going to manifest His kingdom and enemies are going to be put under. Are the children of the wicked one our enemy, according to Matthew, the parables? Yeah. See, something’s going to transpire that we don’t understand yet, and these people that try to put all their little charts together are way off. And how do I know? I try to put my chart together, ain’t no chart. He’s going to do His thing, and He’s going to reveal it when He does it. Ain’t that right? See, and I can prove it. When Jesus came the first time, did they have any understanding of the procedure and the sequence that was going to happen? When Jesus was here for 33 and a half years, they understood beans. It’s as He did it, they go, “Oh, that was written. Oh, this is that which was. Oh, this is that which was written.” I mean, we need to let God be God and stop playing these little God things that we do down here like we have some knowledge. How, you know, He’s capable of wrapping this end time up just perfectly. Hallelujah. Yeah, and if we love Him, we’re going to be like Him when He comes, and everything’s going to be fine.

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1 Corinthians 15:26 (NKJV)

The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.

— 1 Corinthians 15:26 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 28:56 (quoted; reference not named in the message)
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Matthew 13:38 (NKJV)

The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one.

— Matthew 13:38 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 29:27 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

More questions this message answers

Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.

Why does he trust Paul’s explanation of the resurrection?

He says Paul saw Jesus personally after Jesus had ascended, so he has “much more clout, much more understanding, much more truth than any author in this present day.”

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But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?”

— 1 Corinthians 15:35 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 0:41

Why did the Sadducees question the resurrection?

He says they knew the body decayed and went into the grave, so they asked Jesus whose husband a woman with seven husbands would be in heaven. “They lacked understanding in spiritual things, but they didn’t lack understanding in natural things.”

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The same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, saying: “Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. Now there were with us seven brothers. The first died after he had married, and having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. Likewise the second also, and the third, even to the seventh. Last of all the woman died also. Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had her.”

— Matthew 22:23-28 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 1:36

What does “fool” mean in 1 Corinthians 15:36?

He says it can mean stupid or ignorant, egotistical (exaggerating your selfish, self-centered intellect and your own importance), and without reason or common sense. He adds that when we think of ourselves more highly than we ought, “we open ourself up to a fall.”

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Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies.

— 1 Corinthians 15:36 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:42

Does Paul argue from common sense or from Scripture?

He says Paul approaches everything through common sense and then Scriptures, and that it threw him for a while because he thought Paul’s common sense were Scriptures when Paul was just illustrating things in life that work.

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Why does he say a seed has to die?

He says the seed has to die before it can live again and produce a body and fruit, and that a dead seed put in the ground with the right temperature and moisture will germinate and come alive on the inside first.

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Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—perhaps wheat or some other grain. But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.

— 1 Corinthians 15:36-38 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 4:40

What does he say about evolution and the age of the earth?

He says evolutionists keep extending the age of the earth every time they run into a problem, from a million years when he was in school to “4 billion” now, and that if they used common sense they would not come up with it. He also says God made like kinds produce like kinds.

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What does “spiritual body” mean?

He says the word “spiritual” means not human, not natural, not of the natural things of this universe; it is supernatural.

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So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

— 1 Corinthians 15:42-44 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:18

How can God raise people whose bodies turned to dust?

He says God can get wherever that dust is, and that the saints of old who rose with Jesus came out with a supernatural body the same way He did.

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What mistake did Adam make?

He says Adam embraced the tree of knowledge of good and evil over the tree of life, and that Jesus is that tree of life.

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And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

— Genesis 2:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:54

Is God one or plural?

He says you cannot get away from the plurality in the Godhead all through the Scriptures, “yet that the God is what? One God.” He points to the Father raising the dead and the Son giving life to whom He will.

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For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.

— John 5:21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 16:17

What does it mean that Jesus resurrects us out of trespasses and sin?

He says we were dead in trespasses and sin, and when we come to Jesus He resurrects us and makes us alive, forgiving all trespasses, whether it is one or 100. That is why anyone in Christ is a new creature.

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And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

— Colossians 2:13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 17:30

Why does the Bible call death “sleep”?

He says it is because we do not stay in the grave: whether you are a sinner or a saint, it is a temporary period, and we come out just like people wake out of their sleep.

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Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

— 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 22:21

Can a person be a believer and not an obeyer?

He says yes, and that the biggest example in the Bible is the Pharisees and the Sadducees, who could quote Scripture, preach and make converts yet would not obey, and Jesus told them they would be punished too.

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and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,

— 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 27:07

Can we put the end-time events on a chart?

He says no: “these people that try to put all their little charts together are way off,” and when he tried to put his chart together, “ain’t no chart.” God will reveal it when He does it.

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