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From the sermonHow Do Some Civil Leaders Get into Office? — August 30, 2020 · Pastor David G. Kincer▶ 0:00

Pastor David G. Kincer defends America’s founders and calls abortion and same-sex marriage unrighteous decrees. He teaches that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, setting up and removing kings and even using evil rulers to correct His people. He reads Matthew 24 as fulfilled in Jerusalem’s fall and points to the coming great restoration.

Were the founders godless?

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Short answer: No. After 244 years of liberty, it is wrong to call the 56 signers godless madmen.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 0:00 Welcome this morning good to have everybody again I’m going to say welcome thank you for joining us thank you for wearing your mask the Bible says it is good I was glad when they said unto me let us go into the house of the Lord amen I am still so happy. I am so happy that we are gathering together even with a small group it is good to be in God’s house it is good to pray together it is good to seek God together it is an excellent wonderful great day in the Lord amen and it’s good to be with God’s people so thank you again for joining us I’m going to invite mr bambro on up he’s going to share the scripture this morning again God bless you thank you for joining us let’s get ready. To invite Jesus amen amen amen we already did.

▶ 0:57 Good morning good morning we have celebrated and enjoyed 244 years of life liberty in the pursuit of happiness in the united states of America in 1776. The declaration of independence was ratified by the united states congress today Christians are at war to determine the future of America right now the fabric of American values are being torn apart and historians are trying to cleverly rewrite our history as a nation to portray our founding fathers as greedy corrupt.

▶ 1:35 Power driven madmen that were godless and atheistic that is wrong wrong wrong that is not true 56. Men at the independence hall in philadelphia signed the declaration of independence every one of those 56 men had something to lose by signing the declaration of independence they were not poor they were not hungry they were not here just for a power grab for their own economic benefit they were reaching for greatness thomas jefferson wrote he finished writing the declaration of independence in 17 days today with special interest groups and political action committees congress can’t get anything done in 17 days let alone write the declaration of independence 25 of those 56 were outstanding lawyers nine were wealthy property owners four were doctors two were ministers in this in the 16 remaining were highly distinguished men king george iii announced all Americans as traitors and the punishment was hanging by the neck till dead John hancock signed his name in large letters so king george could see his name without his glasses what happened to those 56 men I’ll discuss one-on-one for the sake of time thomas mckean of delaware was harassed by the british he was forced to live in hiding

▶ 3:06 he moved his family five times in five months and then listen to this he served congress without pay can you imagine. These men pledged to each other their life their fortune and their sacred honor. The declaration of independence told king george we are free from taxation without representation Americans had a boston tea party because king george listened raised the price of tea just one half of one percent Americans threw tea in the boston harbor I wish Americans had that type of passion again if they won the war there will be years of hardship to shake this great nation if they lost they would be hanged till dead they signed with inc and they paid with their blood they fought they bled they died for America they loved God they honored God they feared God and they gave everything they had so we as Americans can know the liberties we enjoy this morning the Bible says in Psalms 33:12 blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord Proverbs 29:2 states when the righteous are in authority the people rejoice but when the wicked man rules the people groan our forefathers demanded that the Bible be used as the primary reader in public schools today in progressive America we’ve thrown it out the supreme court has thrown out the ten commandments the Bible says in Isaiah 10:1 woe to those who make unrighteous laws and unfair regulations.

What is an unrighteous decree?

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Short answer: He names abortion and same-sex marriage; if the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 4:38 Abortion is an unrighteous decree same-sex marriage is an unrighteous decree if the foundations be destroyed what can the righteous do America needs to return to the Bible return to traditional Christian family values for husbands to love their wives for fathers to leave the home for children to obey their parents that’s God’s plan for America. The Bible is above all other books it will make you a new creature in Christ it will give you a new attitude it will give you a vocabulary it will make the sinner forsake his way God’s word is more powerful than the coronavirus it’s more powerful than hate envy malice bitterness it is more powerful than death Psalms 23:4 says yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I will fear no evil death is but an empty shadow America needs to return to the Bible return to Jesus we need healing in our land the Bible says in second Corinthians 7:7 14 if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways that I will hear from heaven and forgive their sins and heal their land I thank God for America I thank God we have the ability to come into the house of the Lord and worship the only true king Jesus Christ.

▶ 6:01 Amen. Amen. Amen would you stand with us to begin worship this. And in morning to that message that is Americans. We need to change we need to turn from our direction we’re headed. Let’s sing revive us o Lord this song. Answers that call. So with our heads bowed our eyes closed with this opening prayer of the song let’s sing this unto. Him. Oh.

▶ 7:42 Oh. Cry. We. Are. Oh. Foreign.

▶ 9:06 Uh. Lord Jesus we thank you this morning. God we are reminded as in the scriptures God when you were on this earth Jesus. God then. Like. God.

▶ 10:02 Lord in their spirit God. Jesus on the day of Pentecost people when they heard the message were condemned in their spirit. Lord Jesus when billy brown used to speak in the auditoriums and speak the simple message of the cross repentance God people were convicted by your spirit God Lord in 2020 God that spirit is just as powerful that spirit is just as strong. Of the spirit of conviction would come upon people. Jesus please we pray God. For we need people to experience how real and true you are.

▶ 10:58 Jesus. Isaiah 26:1-2 says we have a strong city God makes salvation its walls and ramparts. Open the gates that the righteous nation that keeps the truth may enter in what’s the key that keeps the truth amen let’s come before him this. Morning. Is.

▶ 12:36 Is. Oh. Me. Who. Is. He.

▶ 13:46 Is. Is. It says the Lord live blessed be the rock and the God of my salvation. Amen.

▶ 15:10 Oh. Oh. Is. Is.

▶ 17:02 Is. Is. Oh. That’s. True.

▶ 18:08 Jesus. Is. Oh. There’s. Oh. Oh.

▶ 19:35 There’s power when we call upon his name is a strong, faithful a sure foundation. There is power in the name of Jesus. We. Are. Let’s. Play.

▶ 20:46 Is. Is. Is.

▶ 22:19 When there. Is. Is. Is. Jesus. Oh.

▶ 23:42 Lord I praise you Jesus and I declare your great name this morning. Jesus when I look back on my life Lord I was so young when I asked you to come into my life but God the enemy tried to pull me down and away from you but God you were there you were so faithful. Oh God I’ve been married 52 years and I thank you because it’s you that’s brought us through God it’s your faithfulness it’s your firm foundation you are the rock of our lives Jesus oh God we thank you today we declare your great name amen how great is our God he is the greatest one forever. Anyone else have to lick their voice just thank God his goodness and faithfulness.

▶ 25:12 Is. Is. Is. A. Oh.

▶ 26:50 Oh. Is. Is. Oh.

▶ 28:14 Is. Is. Is. Is.

▶ 29:24 Is. It’s. Foreign. Is.

▶ 30:34 Is. We. Played. There’s no other name in the name of Jesus. Let us be a people that take our stand. And declare in the name of Jesus. Not God because that could be any God to the people out there but the name of Jesus is the strong tower he says shelter like no other amen. Amen.

▶ 31:59 Cut through all of the lies of Jesus. God Lord they would hear the truth. God support the truth and stand Jesus. We pray in our hearts that we would have such. Such a adamant stand for you and your word God Lord unbelievable God we want to be an unbelievable. People. Everyone said amen. Amen thank you again for joining. Us. Good morning everyone. And to those of you in facebook land. Thank you for joining with us.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Isaiah 10:1 (NKJV)

“Woe to those who decree unrighteous decrees, Who write misfortune, Which they have prescribed

— Isaiah 10:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 4:38
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Psalm 11:3 (NKJV)

If the foundations are destroyed, What can the righteous do?

— Psalm 11:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 4:38

What is the question?

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Short answer: How do some civil rulers get into office?

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 32:53 Today we’re going to ask ourselves this question. How do some civil rulers. Get into office. How do some civil rulers. Get into a position of leadership. In Daniel chapter 2 verse 21. We find that God says. That he changes the times he changes the seasons in Ecclesiastes 3 we all know. There is a time and a season for every purpose under heaven a time to be born a time to die time to love a time to hate a time of war time to peace and so forth but Daniel. Was spoken. By God to say God changes these times in season so whatever season you’re in.

Who changes seasons?

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Short answer: God changes times and seasons; He removes kings and sets up kings.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 33:50 If it’s a bad season God can change your season he’s the changer if it’s a good season he can enlarge that season he can just keep expanding it and I hear an amen he is when things look bleak remember God’s in control and he goes on to say God removes kings and he sets up kings wow wow God removes leaders and he sets up leaders. He gives wisdom unto the wise wow in fact later on in Daniel the Bible says that at the end times knowledge will increase. Why because God chose the end time to increase knowledge before that we were hoarse and buggy people for centuries isn’t that right but when God increased the knowledge one of the signs of the second coming is the increase of knowledge.

▶ 34:50 Or the end time. Sign of the end time and he gives understanding to them that have understanding. Again in Daniel. Chapter 4 verse 17. Now this verse in Daniel chapter 2 is Daniel is interpreting Nebuchadnezzar’s dream. Of a great image of gold silver brass and iron and he’s speaking these things but in Daniel 4 17 425 and. 432. Daniel is interpreting Nebuchadnezzar’s dream again but it’s not a great image it’s a great tree and Nebuchadnezzar is that tree and God’s going to correct him.

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Scripture (NKJV)

Daniel 2:21 (NKJV)

And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings; He gives wisdom to the wise And knowledge to those who have understanding.

— Daniel 2:21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 33:50

What did Nebuchadnezzar learn?

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Short answer: That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men and gives it to whomever He will.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 35:46 And so God says through Daniel to Nebuchadnezzar. That the living may know that the most high rules in the kingdoms of men and gives it to whomsoever he will he even sets over at the lowest of men. And he’s talking to Nebuchadnezzar. You’re low neb. You’re at the bottom of the ring you wouldn’t be anything without me I’m the one that gave you all these nations you rule over. And then as we know he humbled Nebuchadnezzar when Nebuchadnezzar thought in his heart man I’ve done all this great stuff then he crawled on his hands and knees out in the fields and ate grass like the oxen for seven seasons. So the most high rules in the kingdoms of men now all scripture is given for reproof doctrine correction and instruction of righteousness and all scripture is true so these scriptures are true.

▶ 36:49 God sets up kings God tears down king. And the most high rules over every government of men now that we have that established. Let’s look at Daniel’s. Or Nebuchadnezzar’s vision of the image of gold which was the king of Babylon now before this Assyria. God said would come and take Israel captive. Then he said Babylon would come and take Judah captive. So. The gold. The Bible says is the kingdom of Babylon the silver is the kingdom of Persia the brass is the kingdom of greece. And the iron is rome.

▶ 37:42 And Daniel said in the roman empire Jesus Christ would come. Jesus Christ would die be cut off and an eternal kingdom would be established and that’s exactly what happened in a roman empire God spoke it hundreds of years before it came to pass. God is what made the roman empower not the Romans. Are you out there church. God is in control of everything. You remember he named Cyrus 150 years before Cyrus was even born Cyrus was a king of Persia that God said was going to rule and he was going to restore Jerusalem and rebuild the temple.

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Scripture (NKJV)

Daniel 4:17 (NKJV)

‘This decision is by the decree of the watchers, And the sentence by the word of the holy ones, In order that the living may know That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, Gives it to whomever He will, And sets over it the lowest of men.’

— Daniel 4:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 35:46

Did God use foreign kings?

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Short answer: Yes. Cyrus came as prophesied; God used governments for 2,000 years.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 38:36 And sure enough a guy came along named Cyrus that did that you can read that. In the Bible. And so. According to Daniel 2 7 and chapters 8 we have over a thousand years of predicting and fulfilling. Future nations powers and actions is that a great God yes. So they were already 400 years in Egypt. God said you’re going to go to Egypt guess where they went to Egypt he said you’re going to be in bondage down there for 400 years guess what they didn’t come out for 430 years later. All right and he had. 450 years of the judges.

▶ 39:29 And they had 500 years by the local and foreign kings God was moving for 2 000 years. Using governments both of his people and foreign governments to establish his will do we understand that hallelujah it’s important. Very important. And as I said 2 000 years of scriptural proof that God rules in the kingdoms of men and gives it to whomsoever he chooses even the lowest of men. Hallelujah the Bible says Cyrus did not know God. But God said you’re my shepherd and you’re going to do. And perform my purposes he didn’t know God he was a all these kings were heathen kings they worshipped the idols and God used them.

▶ 40:28 Now. All these kingdoms ruled over Israel. Two thousand years. Come and go they ruled over Israel and they ruled over Israel when God said in Deuteronomy 28:13 that if you follow me and my words I’ll make you the head not the tale I’ll make you the ruler not the follower I’ll make you the lender not the one that’s lent to. But Israel never attained that. Never attained it why. We’re going to go to amos chapter 5 verse 25. Have you offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness 40 years now this is amos hundreds of years later talking about Israel in the wilderness coming out of Egypt.

▶ 41:25 You have borne the tabernacle of your images that you made Moloch until the star of your God which you made to yourselves. You implemented a way of worship that was contrary to mine. You worshiped other gods therefore I will cause you to go into captivity beyond damascus. Says the Lord whose name is the God of hosts so even when they came out of Egypt folks and they had the cloud by day the fire by night the voice of God from off of the ark of the covenant talking to them audibly they had the water out of the rock. They had all of these manna from heaven feeding them they had all these miracles going on they visually saw God they audibly heard God he was right there in their midst and they are worshiping other gods.

Why was Israel corrected?

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Short answer: They intermarried, served other gods, and worshiped the host of heaven.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 42:31 Are you there. So. Let’s go to judges chapter 3 verse 6 and chapter 21 verse 25. They took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to their sons speaking of the heathens and the nations that they were supposed to rule over. And the result was they served these nations gods. And then at the end of judges he sums it up and says this every one of my people did what was right in their own eyes instead of what was right in my eyes. Okay why did God give the lowest of rulers to rule over Israel because they.

▶ 43:27 Formed their own religion they mixed with the religions of the world they served other gods and God corrected them. They got the rulers they deserved. So let’s go to Jeremiah 19 verse 13. The houses of Jerusalem this is after the reigns of the Kings 500 years of the reigns of the kings and 200 years after amos gave his prophecy. The houses of Jerusalem and the kings of Judah shall be defiled like the place of topeth because of all the houses on whose roofs they have burned incense all the houses the king’s houses and the citizens houses everybody was worshiping other gods.

▶ 44:20 And they were worshiping the host of heaven the stars. And they poured out drink offerings to other gods. So see from the time they came out of Egypt to the end of the reign of the kings a thousand years they were worshiping other gods. And so God would bring foreign nations in to correct them and they’d repent and then God would give them a reprise and freedom from it and then they’d do the same thing and here come the philistines or the highvites or the hittites or the jebusites or some nation ruling over them when God said you’ll be the ruler and not the follower. Do you see clearly why.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Judges 3:6 (NKJV)

And they took their daughters to be their wives, and gave their daughters to their sons; and they served their gods.

— Judges 3:6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 42:31
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Acts 7:43 (NKJV)

You also took up the tabernacle of Moloch, And the star of your god Remphan, Images which you made to worship; And I will carry you away beyond Babylon.’

— Acts 7:43 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 42:31

Are some evil rulers put there by God?

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Short answer: Yes. Babylon served seventy years as God’s instrument.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 45:12 There are some rulers put in office. That are evil rulers but they’re put there by God. In Jeremiah 25:11 this whole land shall be a desolation and astonishment these nations shall serve the king of Babylon 70 years and that’s exactly what they did why because they served other gods and did what was right in their own eyes and so God gave them. Rulers. Of the lois of men. Now. That covers. From the time they came out of Egypt to 400. Bc. When the roman empire fell apart. That’s two thousand years.

▶ 46:07 But there’s another two thousand years. From 70 a.d to 19 and 48. That Jesus predicted. Another 2000 year which brings us to our day. Are you with me so far I don’t want to lose you. Now. Let’s go to Luke and let’s go to Matthew where Jesus is talking about these things. And let’s just read them like Jesus spoke of instead of drawing in scriptures to make it the way we want it to be let’s just read it the way it is is that fair enough okay. In Luke chapter 21 verse 20 Jesus said when you see Jerusalem campus with armies.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Jeremiah 25:11 (NKJV)

And this whole land shall be a desolation and an astonishment, and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.

— Jeremiah 25:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 45:12

What did Jesus warn?

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Short answer: When you see Jerusalem surrounded, flee to the mountains.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 47:03 Then know that the desolation of it is nigh and let those in Judea flee to the mountains and them in the midst of Jerusalem depart out it’s not the usa it’s not the nations of the world Jesus specifically said those in Jerusalem get out of it those in Judea the nation the surrounding land get out of the nation. Because I am going to use the roman army to destroy. The the land the city of Jerusalem and the temple. Let’s don’t read into it anything. That’s exactly what he said in Matthew and mark he said the obama when you see the abomination of desolation well the abomination of desolation in Luke here is very clear when you see Jerusalem compass with armies.

▶ 48:02 Know that it’s destruction know that I’m going to fulfill Daniel’s prophecy are we fair is that fair yes don’t add to it don’t take away from it just take it as it is and let’s keep reading. These be the days of vengeance so all things written are fulfilled. Who is the vengeance on. Israel. The Jews. For worshiping other gods and doing what was right in their own eyes he is fulfilling his word to punish them they’ve already been in the captivity before now they’re going to go into captivity again. The days plural of vengeance see I’m going to do what I said I am going to punish Israel.

▶ 48:56 Are you with me has nothing to do with the united states of America russia china or anybody else it has to do with the Jews and the Israelites. Now let’s continue reading. There shall be great distress in the land what land. Judah. And wrath upon this people what people. The Jews and Israel. The one that God said he would correct. They shall who is they the Jews Israel. Fall by the sword. And be led captive and to all nations isn’t that what happened in 70 a.d the roman army came in just like Daniel prophesied.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Luke 21:20-21 (NKJV)

“But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her.

— Luke 21:20-21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 47:03

What happened at the siege?

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Short answer: He says women ate their own children; Jerusalem was trodden down by the Gentiles.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 49:50 They besieged Jerusalem. Women were eating their own children the food. Wasn’t available they were eating dead people. They had to drink their own urine. The the tribulation was horrible. And rome killed over a million of them and took hundreds of thousands captive. And others just scattered and there was no Christian there. Recorded in history there’s no Christian because they knew the prophecies. And when they saw this they took off some of them took off because of the persecution of being a Christian but others later took off when they saw the fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy the abomination of desolation are you with me he just read it like it says.

▶ 50:56 All nations they went captive to. Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled in Matthew 24 Jesus said the temple is going to be desolate not one stone on another. And so this. Desolation this destruction he said is going to last. Until the Gentiles. Are not ruling over Jerusalem. Anymore. Jerusalem was going to be trodden of the Gentiles. And when you read your history. Jerusalem. For hundreds of years was either ruled over by Christians who are Gentiles or muslims who are Gentiles.

▶ 51:53 And everybody talks about these crusades and all that some against them and some for them and Jesus predicted. That Jerusalem was going to be ruled over not by the Jews but by Gentiles non-Jews until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Are you with me this is just reading it like Jesus wrote it. Hallelujah. Jerusalem by the way. Was in the Christians and muslim hands until the year. 1967.

▶ 52:47 When the Jews won that war and they captured the other half of Jerusalem before that Jerusalem was split in half. The Jews had part of it and Jordan and the muslims had the other part of it but in that war all of Jerusalem came to the Jews but the dome of the rock the muslim mosque is still under a Gentile’s control. And that’s where the temple was built. And no one has touched that. So Jerusalem is still trodden down by who. The Gentile said the Gentile. So the end of the Gentiles the times of the Gentiles has not ended yet are you with.

▶ 53:40 Me hallelujah. Is God in control of this world yes he is. I showed you last week. Of the great tribulation of the Jews. Not the Christians Christians were going to be. Persecuted because they stood for righteousness they lived righteousness they preached righteousness. Christians being persecuted Jesus nor the apostles called that the great tribulation do you understand that. And if you’re a Christian and you’re not living right no no one’s going to bother you but you live right and you preach right they’re going to separate from your company they can get mad at you beat you up and and fire you and other things.

▶ 54:39 The Christians being persecuted has nothing to do with the great tribulation are you here church. Hallelujah the great tribulation has to do with God correcting the Jews and the Israelites for worshiping other gods and doing what was right in their own eyes and so that started in 70 a.d. They were scattered. And they stayed scattered for 2 000 years till 1948 when God gave him back part of their land they don’t have all their land yet. And he called it the time of the Gentiles. Do we all have that. The great persecution is the persecution of who. The Jews and Israel and it’s gone on for two thousand years and folks that would be a great persecution.

▶ 55:46 Listen. And 300 a.d 200 and some years later. There was a great falling away because the catholics and the orthodox churches brought in man-made doctrines. Worship of mary worship of icons worship of idols and all kinds of stuff wearing a robes calling a priest father when Jesus plainly said don’t call anyone father they brought in all these man-made rules and then the Bible says their first will become a what falling away before Jesus come that falling away happened in 300 a.d. Around that area and it has lasted until today do the roman catholics and the orthodox still worship icons and idols and mary and all this yeah a lot of them never made the transition but see in the middle of this falling away God said I’m going to restore.

▶ 56:54 The Christians will be persecuted for right the remnant the one that didn’t fall away they’ll be persecuted for standing for right but I’m going to restore and I am going to bring times of refreshing and when I tell people on facebook we are in the period of restoration and refreshing they just scratch their head where do you get that because they have heard so much over and over that in the last days there’s going to be a great tribulation and just horrible things going on no we have been in a time of restoration and refreshing for 2000 years and there’s always been a remnant of people that followed God not the falling away church. Amen. Hallelujah how many want to stay a part of that church yes.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Luke 21:24 (NKJV)

And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

— Luke 21:24 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 50:56

What was the great tribulation?

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Short answer: The tribulation God put on the Jews; he says God raised up Hitler to punish the Jews.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 57:52 So that’s what we covered last week just like Jesus talked about now. Matthew 24 to verse 21 through 29 and verse 37 we’re going to cover that. For then there shall be great tribulation. Then at that time what time from the time of Jerusalem being desolate. Judah being desolate the temple being desolate from that time. There will be a great tribulation such as what is not since the world began all the problems the Jews went through from the time that they came out of Egypt till the present day there has never been they have never gone through a tribulation like this one. To this time nor ever shall be so is there going to be a second great tribulation.

▶ 58:50 No there’s never going to be a tribulation greater. Than the tribulation that God put on the Jews. And folks if you know your history the Jews have been persecuted. All this time. 275. Major persecutions. From 70 a.d to the present day 275 major persecutions where they’re killed their houses are burned their synagogues are burned they’re banished from nations you read your history for 2000 years these Jews went through great tribulation. And why. Why did God give them over to evil rulers because they worshiped other gods and did what was right in their own eyes.

▶ 59:52 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun and moon be darkened the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of heaven shaken immediately after tribulation what tribulation. The great tribulation the thing he’s been talking about the days of vengeance. The desolation of Jerusalem and the temple that tribulates it’s the same tribulation it’s not another one it’s the same one. If we just read it like Jesus spoke it we can get it. Can I hear an amen. Are you getting it. But see we hear on the radio and tv the opposite so much and we hear it so much we believe it. And when we go to our Bible we just read in what we’ve been told you know radio tv and tapes and books we just read it in and it’s not there at all.

▶ 1:00:53 Hallelujah after the tribulation when the vengeance of the Jews is over. Then there’s going to be signs in the heaven. Amen when the God is done avenging. Passing vengeance upon the Jews now Hitler was the last great tribulation 6 million Jews. Died over 6 million. See. Now that we know the Bible. Could God have raised up Hitler to do his will. That’s hard for some of you out because God is good. God is love.

▶ 1:01:47 Very hard for a lot of us to accept the fact that God himself. Raised up Hitler to not only punish the Jews but punish the nation to get their attention. And was there a seeking of God. During and after the second world war absolutely was there a great revival a great awakening after. The second world war absolutely. But God wouldn’t do he did it for 4 000 years. But we have been told God is so loving God is so kind we haven’t been told that God is the judge of the world. We haven’t been told that he raises up kings and he takes down king. Are you there church.

▶ 1:02:42 Hallelujah. They could go through more tribulation because the muslim nations around them hate them. They want them annihilated. See we don’t know we just know God is in charge of things but Israel could go through another great tribulation. By God using the muslims who hate them. But we do know this when God is done. Israel is going to be grafted back into the olive tree. Paul said all Israel is going to be saved there’s going to be a great move of God in Israel they’re not just going to be restored back to their land they’re going to be restored back to the messiah Jesus Christ. You see hallelujah see God has a plan.

▶ 1:03:40 And when he’s done and the Gentiles time is done then he’s going to touch the Jews again. And there’s going to be signs and the sun moon the stars going to darken the stars fall from heaven the powers of heaven shaken. Men in anguish men in distress when they see what’s coming you go to Revelation you see all of these plagues and everything poured out so there is a season the signs of his coming and then he comes are you with me. And. Then shall appear all the ray and all the races shall see every ethnic group every nation will see the sign. The supernatural. Indication that the son of man is coming in heaven with power and glory.

▶ 1:04:34 And they mourn as I said they’re in distress. The waves and the sea roaring and all these things happening oh my gosh. And in Revelation it says that steel will not repent. During this season and we read that the angels gather the elect after what. The tribulation. See then shall appear. When after. The tribulation. Say it after the tribulation. Not before. Not before at all. Now I know you may not want to hear this but this is Bible. Jesus plainly said after the tribulation and why could he say that because when the tribulation of the Jews end his time.

▶ 1:05:35 Of the Gentiles is over and he’s read he’s done his work and he’s ready to wrap it up. The angels gather the elect after the tribulation. Hallelujah. Now. This is why he could say this verse this part of the verse as it was in the days of Noah and the days of lot. So shall the coming of the son of man be or Jesus be and he says they were buying they were selling they were eating they were drinking they were marrying and given in marriage folks that’s normal life now how can you have normal life in a great tribulation at the time it’s happening. In 70 a.d believe me they were drinking their own urine. They were eating their own children dead bodies.

▶ 1:06:30 Are you there that’s not normal is it no. They couldn’t buy and sell property the property was worthless. The roman empire came in they possessed. Everything. And they certainly weren’t married and given in marriage they were fighting for their life. But when you see that the great tribulation lasts 2 000 years during this other time did the Jews marry and given marriage yes did the rest of the world do that yes was the rest of the world and the Jews buying and selling. Yes. See it all adds up when you read it like Jesus spoke it can I hear an amen amen are you getting this.

▶ 1:07:22 And I know it go against everything you hear on radio and television but I dare you to go and read it like Jesus wrote it just read it like Jesus wrote. It. Now. As the musicians come. We’re going to close real quick here but as they come I just want to remind you of this in Revelations 15. The Bible says they sang the song of Moses. The servant of God and the song of the lamb they sang two songs why did they sing two songs because the song of Moses in Deuteronomy. Said that Israel was going to turn away from God they were going to serve other gods and go into captivity hundreds of years before it happened are you there.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Matthew 24:21 (NKJV)

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

— Matthew 24:21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 57:52

What are we looking for?

▶ Watch this part (1:08:26)

Short answer: Not a great tribulation but the great restoration; I will build My church.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 1:08:26 But the song of the lamb is different. The song of the lamb says I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Amen. This church is going to be victorious I’m going to present to myself a glorious church without spot or wrinkle or any such thing thy church is more than conquerors in this life my church rules and reigns with Christ now in this life. My church is not going to be like Israel. Because Israel was worshiping the shadow laws but the church is worshiping the fulfillment and serving the fulfillment of the shadow laws Jesus Christ his blood his death his resurrection the empowerment of the Holy Ghost and the empowerment of his word opening our understanding to the scriptures amen.

▶ 1:09:25 So we’re not looking. For some great tribulation we are looking for the great restoration. Of all things spoken by the mouth of the prophet since the world began and that’s the song we’re singing restoration. It’s a message restoration of all truth as was spoken by the prophets it will lead to the second coming and the end of time if you believe that and you’re glad you’re part of that will you stand with me and in closing let’s sing. It. Restoration.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Matthew 16:18 (NKJV)

And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

— Matthew 16:18 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:08:26
Scripture (NKJV)

Acts 3:21 (NKJV)

whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

— Acts 3:21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:09:25

If we fall?

▶ Watch this part (1:10:57)

Short answer: A righteous man falls seven times and rises again.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 1:10:57 The Bible says the righteous shall fall seven times if the Lord picks him up we’re in the season where if we fail he doesn’t come and destroy us he comes and restores us. Amen amen many made mistakes. Yes restoration is the message for you he’s in the job of restoration and refreshing hallelujah. And you can rely on him to pick you back up. Hallelujah let’s sing it one more. Time. Is.

▶ 1:12:13 Have we got a lot to look forward to yes and the great tribulation isn’t one of them it’s the great restoration. Amen hallelujah. Let’s find our seats we’re going to pray for the offering and then we have an announcement. Let’s bow our heads and ask. Mr townsend would you please pray for the offering. Father we thank you again for this opportunity that we have to come and assemble together this morning and Lord we pray for this offering that’s about to be received that you’ll bless according to the abundance of the needs of your church that you’ll continue to supply those deeds through these. Offerings. Amen.

▶ 1:13:06 If you’d like to give your offering there’s an envelope in the back go ahead and drop it off with the drop box or give online at go to mountainside.com. Now our announcement today following up on last week. About the return event. I want to show you how to go on your facebook and share about this event now just a reminder this event is a global and national call to prayer and repentance. They’re going to be at the national mall in washington dc on September 26. Next month. And if they’re going to be joining together prayer repentance a lot of groups are involved billy graham evangelistic association.

▶ 1:14:00 Calvary chapel church a lot of big. Groups and churches are gathering together for this and so we want to promote it and be a part of this event so to spread the word about it you can go to your face you can go to this website it’s called the return.org. For the return.org easy. And you go down. To the video it says about the return. And you click on this little link here and you click on share. And it’ll give you options to share on. Facebook this doesn’t give me the options but on my phone you can click on facebook and you can post to your facebook account directly from the menu okay it’s pretty easy so you can share on your facebook with uh and everybody will hear about it all your friends may not be your friends anymore.

▶ 1:15:04 But you can share online about this event. And uh. Right now we’re not sure on what our involvement is going to be we most likely will be here on the 26th. Uh but I need to confirm that and we’re going to stream it from the church on the Saturday the 26th this event going on so that is the update. Thank you so uh mrs daigle if I missed anything please let me know. And I should play the two minute video but I’m not I don’t know where it is right now thank you for joining us this morning God bless you online. And uh let’s love one another at a distance.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Proverbs 24:16 (NKJV)

For a righteous man may fall seven times And rise again, But the wicked shall fall by calamity.

— Proverbs 24:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:10:57

More questions this message answers

Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.

Founders’ sacrifice?

Served without pay.

▶ Watch at 3:06

Strong city?

Salvation its walls.

▶ Watch at 10:58

Who sets up and tears down kings?

God does; the Most High rules over every government of men.

▶ Watch at 36:49

Crusades?

Predicted.

▶ Watch at 51:53

Great falling away?

Around 300 AD.

▶ Watch at 55:46

Muslim nations?

Hate Israel.

▶ Watch at 1:02:42

Is the great tribulation what Christians look forward to?

No. He says the great tribulation isn’t one of them; it’s the great restoration.

▶ Watch at 1:12:13

Event?

Calvary Chapel and others gathering.

▶ Watch at 1:14:00

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