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In “Government Aid: Is It Successful?”, Pastor David G. Kincer looks back at political promises to end poverty and says government aid has not won the war on poverty, while marriage, education and job skills have. He then gives the Bible’s solutions: the family takes care of family, the poor work for their aid as in the gleaning laws, every able person works, and one law and one custom apply to citizen and immigrant alike.
Is United States government aid successful?
Short answer: He asks whether government aid is really the best choice and looks back at political promises, saying the New Deal “didn’t work” and that the Great Society and War on Poverty promised to annihilate poverty.
▶ 0:00 We thank you for coming, taking your time to expose bad choices so we can make better choices, and hopefully the best choices. Today we’re going to ask this question: is the United States government aid successful? Is it really the best choice? So we’re going to go back and think on past political promises. Liberal Democrat Roosevelt’s New Deal, which encompass three parts: relief for the unemployed and the poor, recovery from the economy, and reform so it never happens again, 1932, and it didn’t work. Uh, the liberal Democrat Lyndon Johnson’s 1960 Great Society, War on Poverty, Medicaid, Medicare, is going to annihilate poverty [unclear].
Will poverty ever end, according to the Bible?
Short answer: He says there have been 49 recessions, panics or depressions since 1776, and that Deuteronomy 15:11 says the poor will never cease out of the land. He says the parties promising to fix poverty did not prevent it and most of the time caused it.
▶ 1:01 Republican President Hoover, conservative Republican President Hoover, in 1930 said he was going to change the unemployment rate and help the poor, and he started building the Hoover Dam, the stimulus to get the economy going, and that didn’t work. So think on these facts for a moment. There have been 49 economic recessions, panics or depressions since 1776, or one in every five years. The results, of course, were increased unemployment and increased poverty. Deuteronomy 5:11- 15:11 says the poor will never cease out of the land. Now, if God, the Bible, is true, they’re giving us promises they really can live up to. Now think on this: the government parties promising to fix poverty and unemployment are the same government parties that did not prevent it, and most of the time they caused it. And think on this: James Madison, founding father, “Charity is no part of the legislative duty of government,” a federal government. Ben Franklin: “The best way of doing good to the poor is not making them easy in poverty, but leading them out of it.”
Scripture in this part
Deuteronomy 15:11 (NKJV)
For the poor will never cease from the land; therefore I command you, saying, ‘You shall open your hand wide to your brother, to your poor and your needy, in your land.’
— Deuteronomy 15:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:40Who helped the poor before the New Deal?
Short answer: He says relief for the poor and unemployed was the responsibility of families, private charities, churches and local governments, and the poor had to work for that money if they could work. He says unplanned births went from nine percent to over 40 percent today.
▶ 2:28 Now, I’m going to give you some things for your consideration about government aid. Before the New Deal, before the War on Poverty, financial relief for the poor and unemployed was the responsibility of families, private charities, churches and local governments, who got the money from property taxes to help the poor. But the poor had to work to get that money, if they could work. So consider this: before the New Deal, unwed versus unplanned births were nine percent. Before the War on Poverty they had moved up to 10 percent. Today unplanned births are over 40 percent of births.
How have marriage and child poverty changed since the War on Poverty?
Short answer: He says marriage dropped from 91 percent before the New Deal to less than 50 percent of Americans getting married today, while child poverty went from 20 percent to 23 percent. He says the War on Poverty has not accomplished what they said it would.
▶ 3:22 Now consider this: before the New Deal, 91 percent were married. Before the War on Poverty, 89 percent were married; they’ve dropped down a couple of percentages, according to the Census Bureau. Today less than 50 percent of Americans are getting married. Now consider this: before the New Deal, child poverty was 20 percent, and before the War on Poverty it was still 20 percent. According to the USA Today, this year, 2014, child poverty now is 23 percent. Obviously this War on Poverty has not accomplish what they said they would do.
Does marriage reduce child poverty?
Short answer: He says a child raised in a single-parent home has up to a 71 percent chance of growing up in poverty, while the poverty rate in a married household is nine percent. He says children of high school dropouts face 83 percent.
▶ 4:18 Now consider this: child poverty in a single family home today, 60 to 71 percent live in poverty, dependent on the survey that you accept. So a child that is brought up in a single-parent home has a 71 percent chance of growing up in poverty. But consider this: child poverty rate in a married household today is nine percent. Even though less than 50 percent are getting married, the poverty rate in a married household is nine percent. Now consider this: child poverty of high school dropouts, whether they are married or not married, is 83 percent.
What really wins the war on poverty?
Short answer: He says those with a college degree or job skill who are married have only 1.8 percent poverty, so marriage and training for a job skill are winning the poverty war without government aid, and a hand up rather than a handout brings people out of poverty.
▶ 5:17 So if you are the child of a high school dropout, you have a 83 percent chance of growing up in poverty. But those who have a college degree or a job skill, a tech degree, and they are married, poverty is only 1.8 percent of this group. Hmm. That’s the Heritage Foundation and the Bureau of Census. So the conclusion of this consideration about government aid: marriage and training for a job skill is winning the poverty war without government aid. Consider this also, that tax is saved from the government handling aid; it leaves you more money to help your family and those poor in your family. And giving most people, most poor folks, a hand up rather than a handout brings them out of poverty.
Are poor Americans really poor today?
Short answer: He says the War on Poverty distracted us from marriage, education, job skill and responsibility. He lists appliances, cars and homes most poor households have and says it does not sound like poverty, but the homeless on the street, he says, is poverty the government has not solved.
▶ 6:30 You see, evidently the War on Poverty has distracted us from marriage, education, job skill and responsibility to take care of ourselves and take care of our family and avoid poverty. So we need to give people a hand up instead of a handout and lead them out of poverty. United States government aid did raise the poverty living standard. According to the Census Bureau, over 93 percent have a TV, a recorder, a fridge, a stove, washer, dryer, microwave, Xbox, adequate food and clothing; eighty percent have air conditioning; 81 percent have cell phones; 75 percent have one car or more; 66 percent have cable and satellite TV service; 58 have more than one computer and one or more computers; and 42 percent own their own homes. It doesn’t sound like very poverty to me. But when you look at the homeless out on the street, 633,782 adults and 1.3 million youths out on the street, that is poverty. They have nowhere to live, they have no way of making money, and our government has not solved that problem with their War on Poverty.
What does the Bible say about family and poverty?
Short answer: He reads 1 Timothy 5:8 and calls the family taking care of family the front-line weapon in God’s war on poverty. His second point is that in the Bible you work for your aid, as in gleaning (Leviticus 19:10) and the seventh-year harvest (Exodus 23:11).
▶ 8:03 So let’s look at the Bible for some solutions to poverty, and also you’re going to find solutions to illegal immigrants, and these solutions. Number one, family. First Timothy 5:8: if anyone fails to provide for himself, especially his own family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. So the front-line weapon on God’s war on poverty is the family takes care of family. Number two, in the Bible you have to work for your financial aid or your food aid. Leviticus 19:10, the poor had to go into the field and glean what the harvesters dropped or left, but they had to work for it. Exodus 23:11: in the seventh year farmers could not harvest, so the orchards and the, what grew in the field, the poor could go in and harvest it themselves.
Scripture in this part
1 Timothy 5:8 (NKJV)
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
— 1 Timothy 5:8 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:20Leviticus 19:10 (NKJV)
And you shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather every grape of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the poor and the stranger: I am the LORD your God.
— Leviticus 19:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:45Exodus 23:11 (NKJV)
but the seventh year you shall let it rest and lie fallow, that the poor of your people may eat; and what they leave, the beasts of the field may eat. In like manner you shall do with your vineyard and your olive grove.
— Exodus 23:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:00Did the poor have to work for help in the Bible?
Short answer: He says God tells us to help the poor and tells the poor to work for that help (Leviticus 23:22). He adds that you could eat in any field but carry nothing out (Deuteronomy 23:24), as Jesus did in Matthew 12:1.
▶ 9:12 Which, God is telling us we need to help the poor, and he’s telling us also that the poor need to work for that help, in Leviticus 23:22. You could go into any field and eat all you want anytime, but you couldn’t carry anything out with you; that’s in Deuteronomy 23, verses 24. And in Matthew 12:1 Jesus used this. He went into the field and grab wheat, corn kernels, that’s tough to eat, and they accused him of working on the Sabbath because he took grain and ate it, according to the Scriptures.
Scripture in this part
Leviticus 23:22 (NKJV)
‘When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap the corners of your field when you reap, nor shall you gather any gleaning from your harvest. You shall leave them for the poor and for the stranger: I am the LORD your God.’ ”
— Leviticus 23:22 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:20Deuteronomy 23:24-25 (NKJV)
“When you come into your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes at your pleasure, but you shall not put any in your container. When you come into your neighbor’s standing grain, you may pluck the heads with your hand, but you shall not use a sickle on your neighbor’s standing grain.
— Deuteronomy 23:24-25 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:35Matthew 12:1 (NKJV)
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat.
— Matthew 12:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:40What causes poverty, according to the Bible?
Short answer: He lists conditions of the poor: a servant fired for cheating (Luke 16:3), a man born with a handicap who begged (Luke 18:35), a working family that is simply not rich (Proverbs 13:23), and ruin through bad judgment or injustice.
▶ 9:56 Uh, Luke 16:3 gives our first condition of the poor: the servant [unclear] cheated his master and he got fired, and he was ashamed to beg. In 18:35, the bl- blind man, who was created with a handicap and was poor, he went out and begged. The poverty family: much food is in the tillage of the poor. Here is a family that’s working and they have food, but they’re just not rich like some people are rich, in Proverbs 13:23. That is the third condition of poor, and probably the most popular one. And the fourth one is ruin comes through bad judgment. People make bad judgments, or injustice, where people come and steal from them, and it keeps them poor. Second Thessalonians 3:10, the New Testament backs up this work ethic.
Scripture in this part
Luke 16:3 (NKJV)
“Then the steward said within himself, ‘What shall I do? For my master is taking the stewardship away from me. I cannot dig; I am ashamed to beg.
— Luke 16:3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:00Luke 18:35 (NKJV)
Then it happened, as He was coming near Jericho, that a certain blind man sat by the road begging.
— Luke 18:35 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:12Proverbs 13:23 (NKJV)
Much food is in the fallow ground of the poor, And for lack of justice there is waste.
— Proverbs 13:23 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:252 Thessalonians 3:10 (NKJV)
For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
— 2 Thessalonians 3:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:50What does “if any man doesn’t work, neither should he eat” mean?
Short answer: He says the third principle of God’s solution is to work diligently and hard “or you shouldn’t eat.” He names laziness and excuses as further sources of poverty, from Proverbs 10:4 and Proverbs 20:4.
▶ 10:57 So number three is work. If any man doesn’t work, neither should he eat. Work with your own hands so you may lack nothing, First Thessalonians 4:11. So the third principle of God’s solution is work, and work diligently, and work hard, or you shouldn’t eat, and your tummy will drive you to work. Here is the fifth source of poverty: he who has a slack hand, they’re just lazy, becomes poor. They’re show up late, they miss work, when they do work they’re taking a lot of water breaks and doing a lot of yakking and talking. They’re just not productive, they’re just lazy. The sluggard, the lazy person, will not plow by reason of the cold. Here’s our sixth source of poverty, is excuses. They have an excuse: well, you know, I’m born in the wrong neighborhood, the wrong family, uh, whatever, that’s my excuse. And he will beg in the harvest and have nothing. Why? Because the people in Proverbs 20, verse 4, saw what he did, and they wouldn’t give him anything if he begged, because he could have provided for his own self.
Scripture in this part
2 Thessalonians 3:10 (NKJV)
For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
— 2 Thessalonians 3:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:001 Thessalonians 4:11 (NKJV)
that you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you,
— 1 Thessalonians 4:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:05Proverbs 10:4 (NKJV)
He who has a slack hand becomes poor, But the hand of the diligent makes rich.
— Proverbs 10:4 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:20 (quoted; reference not named in the message)Proverbs 20:4 (NKJV)
The lazy man will not plow because of winter; He will beg during harvest and have nothing.
— Proverbs 20:4 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:40What does the Bible say about immigrants and work for aid?
Short answer: Reading Numbers 15:16, he says one law and one custom apply to the citizen and the stranger. He says aid recipients can do work such as cleaning hotels and harvesting fields, which he says would reduce illegal immigration.
▶ 12:10 Numbers 15:16: one law and one custom shall be for you, the citizens of the land, and the immigrant, the stranger. You can’t bring in your own laws, you can’t bring in your own customs; you got to go with the customs and laws of the nation. So aid recipients can clean hotels, they can harvest the farmers’ field, they can mow lawns and clean swimming pools, and in doing that, while they’re getting government aid, they will reduce illegal immigrants, because there won’t be any jobs. These guys that get financial aid will be working. So the Bible advises marry, having a family, being loyal to it, taking care of it, and education, getting a job skill, and working, and you will be financially successful, and you will be 98.2 percent of Americans that will avoid poverty and will never have to have government aid.
Scripture in this part
Numbers 15:16 (NKJV)
One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.’ ”
— Numbers 15:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 12:12What is the best choice in the war on poverty?
Short answer: He says the Bible declares the best choices: marry, be loyal to and take care of your family, get an education and a job skill, and work hard, and you will be successful.
▶ 13:20 The Bible confirms these choices, and the Bible declares that these are the best choices. Marry, be loyal to your family, take care of your family, get an education, get a job skill, work hard, and you will be successful, and you will make the best choice on the war of poverty.
More questions this message answers
Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.
What were the three parts of the New Deal he describes?
He says it encompassed relief for the unemployed and the poor, recovery from the economy, and reform so it never happens again.
What quote about the poor does he give from Ben Franklin?
He quotes: “The best way of doing good to the poor is not making them easy in poverty, but leading them out of it.”
How often does he say recessions or depressions happen?
He says there have been 49 economic recessions, panics or depressions since 1776, or one in every five years.
What chance of poverty does he give for a child in a single-parent home?
He says 60 to 71 percent, depending on the survey you accept.
Is it better to give a hand up or a handout?
He says giving most poor folks a hand up rather than a handout brings them out of poverty.
What does he call real poverty?
He points to the homeless on the street, who have nowhere to live and no way of making money, and says the government has not solved that problem.
What is the front-line weapon in God’s war on poverty?
He says it is the family taking care of family, from 1 Timothy 5:8.
Scripture (NKJV)But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
— 1 Timothy 5:8 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:20
Why was Jesus accused when He picked grain?
He says Jesus went into the field and took grain and ate it, and they accused Him of working on the Sabbath.
Scripture (NKJV)At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat.
— Matthew 12:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:40
What does he say about laziness?
He says he who has a slack hand becomes poor: showing up late, missing work, taking breaks and talking instead of being productive.
How do excuses lead to poverty?
From Proverbs 20:4 he says the sluggard who makes excuses will beg in the harvest and have nothing, because people saw he could have provided for himself.
Scripture (NKJV)The lazy man will not plow because of winter; He will beg during harvest and have nothing.
— Proverbs 20:4 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:40
Should immigrants follow the laws and customs of the nation?
He says from Numbers 15:16 that you can’t bring in your own laws or customs; you go with the customs and laws of the nation.
Scripture (NKJV)One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.’ ”
— Numbers 15:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 12:12
How does he say most Americans can avoid poverty?
He says marrying, being loyal to your family, getting an education and a job skill, and working will make you financially successful and keep you from needing government aid.
About this transcript
This transcript comes from YouTube’s automatic English captions, which supply the timing and the words. Punctuation, capitalization and paragraphing were added by hand, and obvious caption errors were corrected; his wording was not rewritten. “[unclear]” marks a word or name that was not clear. Editor note: he begins the reference as “Deuteronomy 5:11” and then says “15:11”; the verse he quotes (“the poor will never cease out of the land”) is Deuteronomy 15:11. “In 18:35” follows his Luke references and is linked as Luke 18:35 (the blind man begging). He quotes Proverbs 10:4 (“he who has a slack hand becomes poor”) without naming it. One word before “Great Society” and one about the servant in Luke 16 are garbled in the captions and shown as [unclear]. He dates the Great Society to 1960; it is usually dated to 1964. He names presidents Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson and Herbert Hoover, the Democratic and Republican parties, and quotes James Madison and Benjamin Franklin; the Madison wording is his own and has not been checked here. His statistics (49 recessions since 1776, marriage, unplanned-birth and child-poverty rates, the poverty figures he credits to the Heritage Foundation, the Census Bureau and USA Today 2014, 633,782 homeless adults and 1.3 million youths, 98.2 percent) have not been checked here. He also speaks about illegal immigration as his own view; it is kept as spoken. Select any time to jump to that moment on YouTube.
