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God’s Correction Tactics · Part 2 · Pastor David G. Kincer, Vine Cluster Church · Uploaded June 25, 2014 · 24:25

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From the sermonGod's Correction Tactics Part 2 · Pastor David G. Kincer▶ 0:00

In “God’s Correction Tactics Part 2,” Pastor David G. Kincer says God’s correction comes by his Word and, when it is ignored, by punishment, and that the goal is the peaceable fruit of righteousness (Hebrews 12). He uses Ezekiel 14, Isaiah 29:6 and 1 Corinthians 11:30, and Ezra’s request to God as a pattern for accepting correction and asking God to keep his promises. He closes with Proverbs 13:24 and 19:18 on prompt discipline.

Why is it important to find a good moral church?

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Short answer: He says preachers and churches are not always good, and that a church which stands for morality is the church that will have an effect for good on homes, the community and the world. He says a church that flatters you and lets you live the way you want is not a good church.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 0:03 And then you got the church. But we know from the newspapers and the Bible that preachers and churches aren’t always good. Churches have been caught molesting children, taking the money, preaching bad doctrines, both in the Bible and in our everyday newspapers. So, finding a good moral church is important, isn’t it? A church that stands for morality. You may not like to hear the preaching, but let me tell you, that’s the church that is going to have an effect for good on the homes and the community and in the world. Could that be true?

Why can we always trust the Bible when we cannot always trust people?

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Short answer: He says you cannot always trust a friend, a spouse, church leaders or a parent, but you can always trust the Bible because it does not change. He says the Bible will keep you sound, keep correcting you and keep making you wiser, and that it is the foundation of correction.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 0:56 Amen. A church that flatters you and lets you live the way you want is not a good church. And so when the ministers goes a muck, what does a person do? Well, then they go to the Bible. You can’t... the Bible stands strong. It’s our standard. And if you don’t twist it and turn it to your own convenience, that word will always keep you sound. Hallelujah. It will always be correcting you. It will always keep making you wiser. And do you realize that only 15%, 15% of Christians read their word? And that is the foundation of correction. You can’t always trust your friend.

▶ 1:48 You can’t always trust your spouse. You can’t always trust the church leaders. You can’t always trust a parent. But you can always trust the Bible. Hallelujah. It doesn’t change. And it is sad when we do not read that seriously and objectively every day. How many of you read your Bible through last year? You see what I mean? And we’re in a church that pushes reading the word all the time, and we can’t find time to read the word. And we can find time to watch TV, go to movies, and do all kinds of things, but we can’t find time to read the book that is a sound source for us to be corrected by God.

What saves a person when God sends judgment?

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Short answer: Reading Ezekiel 14, he says Noah, Daniel and Job would only save themselves by their righteousness, not by faith, grace, miracles, worship, prayer, the ark or prosperity. He says you can have miracles and not be righteous.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 2:44 Hallelujah. How do you know preachers are preaching the right thing if you don’t get to the book and find out? And that’s what the Bible said. The acts of God were also used to correct, and punishment. Correction by punishment in Ezekiel 14:21 sums it up. When I send my painful judgments upon Jerusalem, war, famine, beast, and epidemic diseases, if Noah, Daniel, and Job were there, they would only save themselves by their what? You notice the word faith is not there. You will notice the word grace is not there. Hello, are you out there?

▶ 3:38 Do you notice the word miracles are not there? We got miracles in our church. You can have miracles and not be righteous. Hallelujah. Worship is not there. Some people, that’s all they want to do is just focus in on worship. That’s just one aspect. The word prayer is not there. Are you getting the message? Daniel was a prayer. Daniel had miracles. Daniel had visions. But it wasn’t his prayers, his visions, and his miracles that would save him. What was it? What was it? His righteousness. Noah built a boat.

▶ 4:30 My goodness, what a feat he did. He had a huge building. Miraculous. Oh man, how awesome. But it wasn’t the ark that saved him. Are you there, church? It wasn’t his faith that saved him. It was his righteousness. Hallelujah. Job was wealthy, prosperous. So was Daniel. But it wasn’t their prosperity that saved him. It was their righteousness. Do you get it? Correction by punishment. God can bring a war. And I don’t care how great we are right now in, in the world, in our arms.

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Ezekiel 14:14-21 (NKJV)

Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness,” says the Lord GOD. “If I cause wild beasts to pass through the land, and they empty it, and make it so desolate that no man may pass through because of the beasts, even though these three men were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither sons nor daughters; only they would be delivered, and the land would be desolate. “Or if I bring a sword on that land, and say, ‘Sword, go through the land,’ and I cut off man and beast from it, even though these three men were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither sons nor daughters, but only they themselves would be delivered. “Or if I send a pestilence into that land and pour out My fury on it in blood, and cut off from it man and beast, even though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither son nor daughter; they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness.” For thus says the Lord GOD: “How much more it shall be when I send My four severe judgments on Jerusalem—the sword and famine and wild beasts and pestilence—to cut off man and beast from it?

— Ezekiel 14:14-21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:55

Does God use war and disease to correct a nation?

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Short answer: He says God can bring a war, and that if God decides this nation is going down, it will go down. He says “this HIV thing is obviously a visitation from God” and that new sexually transmitted diseases are God saying the sexual revolution is not the way to go.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 5:23 If God decides this nation’s going down, folks, we’re going down. See, the Bible says, “Some trust in chariots, some in horses, armaments, but we will remember the name of the Lord our God.” Now, we got to have arms, but let me tell you, we got to have God. And this HIV thing is obviously a visitation from God. We didn’t have it before, before. It came from a source of sin. It’s obvious God is trying to adjust. All these new sexually transmitted diseases that we never heard of before, 30-some new ones, are God saying sexual revolution is not the way to go.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Psalm 20:7 (NKJV)

Some trust in chariots, and some in horses; But we will remember the name of the LORD our God.

— Psalm 20:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:30 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What are the acts of God that correct people?

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Short answer: He says acts of God are flood, fire from heaven and hell, and reads Isaiah 29:6, where the Lord of hosts visits with thunder, earthquake, a great noise, storm, tempest and devouring fire. He says the reason is to get you to correct yourself.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 6:15 And America just keeps pumping medicine into them and hanging on to these ideas and not recognizing, even mocking when somebody, and I heard ministers get on TV at these news, uh, talk shows and say that’s God’s judgment, and they were laughed at and mocked at. And one was a woman pastor that did an excellent job, and they just ridiculed her. And that was on Fox News. Did one of the best jobs I ever heard. Acts of God are flood, fire from heaven, and hell. In Isaiah 29:6 it says, “You shall be visited of the Lord of hosts with thunder and earthquake and a great noise, and a storm and a temp, tempest, and a flame of devouring fire.” Why?

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Isaiah 29:6 (NKJV)

You will be punished by the LORD of hosts With thunder and earthquake and great noise, With storm and tempest And the flame of devouring fire.

— Isaiah 29:6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 6:45

Does 1 Corinthians 11:30 say believers are sick because of God’s correction?

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Short answer: He reads that many are weak and sick among you, and many asleep, and says God is talking to the church. He says some believers are weak, sick or dead before their time because they did not discern the Lord’s body, and that God corrects by punishment.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 7:10 To get you to correct yourself. Colossian, 1 Corinthians 11:30, for this reason, many are weak and sick among you, and many asleep. He’s talking to the church. Some of you believers are weak, weak in your mind, weak in your emotion, weak in your spirit. Some of you are sick and some of you are dead before your time because you did not discern the Lord’s body. You are the body of Christ. His body died for our sins. We are the body of Christ. And so God corrects by punishment. What’s the goal of correction? Hebrews 12:9, our fathers of our flesh corrected us and we gave them respect.

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1 Corinthians 11:30 (NKJV)

For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.

— 1 Corinthians 11:30 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:12

What is the goal of God’s correction according to Hebrews 12?

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Short answer: He says fathers of the flesh corrected us and we respected them, so it is common sense that God our Father will correct us, for our profit that we might be partakers of his holiness. He says no chastening seems joyous at the time, but afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 8:04 Shall we not much rather be in submission unto the father of spirits and live? In other words, if natural fathers correct us and we respected them, we responded. Isn’t it just common sense that God our father will correct us? For fathers of the flesh, for a few days corrected us after their own pleasure. But God for our profit, that we might be partakers of what? His holiness, his righteousness. See, God has a goal. No chastening, no correction for the present seems to be joyous, but it’s grievious.

▶ 8:59 Now, we understand that in the natural, when I’d go to discipline my kids, you know, they’d put a book behind their bottom and, you know, pad whatever. It wasn’t a, it wasn’t an enjoyable time. They weren’t going, “Oh, great. Dad’s going to spank us. Hallelujah. Man, I can’t wait.” And neither do adults in the church. We don’t like it, and we try to ignore it and say it isn’t God. Like I read at the beginning, they say it’s not God, but afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised, trained thereby.

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Scripture (NKJV)

Hebrews 12:9-11 (NKJV)

Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

— Hebrews 12:9-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:04

Why would a loving father correct instead of letting a child keep doing harm?

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Short answer: Using the picture of a child who sniffs model-airplane glue, he says he would be a bad father if he neglected to teach the boy and do what is necessary to stop it. He says he is the adult, the one supposed to know better, protect and guide.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 9:51 Hallelujah. You see, correction is part of the training, part of the exercise to make you a righteous person. Wouldn’t it be foolish for me? My kid gets an airplane model and he puts this airplane model together with glue. And in doing that, building this airplane model, he gets the smell of that and he gets a, a rise from it, a high from it. And so instead of building the airplane model, he just sniffs the glue. Now, wouldn’t it, wouldn’t I be a bad father if I neglect it to teach this boy and do what’s necessary physically to get him not to do that?

▶ 10:51 Absolutely. See, he’s the child. I’m the adult. I’m the one that’s supposed to know better. I’m the one that’s supposed to be protecting. I’m the one that’s supposed to be guiding. And yes, in that issue, we all go, “Yeah, it’s a bad day. Yeah, he needs to correct it.” Well, church people are using profanity. Parents are using profanity. Church people lie. Church people lose their temper. They verbally abuse people. They slander people.

Why doesn’t God just say "I love you" and let us keep doing wrong?

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Short answer: He says if the child keeps sniffing the glue the mind burns out, and if we as Christians keep doing wrong things we destroy our life and the lives of those around us. He asks whether God should correct parents who drop their kids off at church and go home.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 11:44 Now, is God a good God when he just say, “Oh, I love you. You just keep sniffing the glue.” You know, it’s really not the best way for you, but I love you. You know, you just keep sniffing the glue. What happens if the kid keeps sniffing the glue? The mind burns out. Yes. What happens if we as Christians just keep doing these things that are wrong? We destroy our life and we destroy those around us. Hallelujah. Parents drop their kids off to babysit at church and go home.

How can God use trouble in our homes to correct us?

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Short answer: He says once you accept Christ God will correct you and you will have troubles, and that your own kids may come against you because of your neglect and because you ask them to do one thing while you do another. He says we need to go to the Bible to get our life, and then our home, straightened out.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 12:35 Shouldn’t God correct that? Shouldn’t a parent come as an example to the child? Church is not just good for you, it’s good for the whole family. Isn’t that right? So God’s got to come and deal with this stuff. Once you say you’re a believer and you accept Christ, God’s going to spank your fanny, and you’re going to have troubles. Your own kids will come against you. That’s one of his ways. He’ll turn your kids right against you. And he doesn’t have to do it directly. He does it because of your neglect. And you’re asking them to do one thing and you are doing another. And then we go to psychologists and psychiatry and we spend 50 bucks for a half hour to try to straighten out our home, when we just need to go to the Bible and get our life straightened out and our home would get straightened out.

How can the church have an effect on homes in America?

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Short answer: He says if he wants his children corrected, he has to let God correct him, and if the church is going to have an effect on homes and lives in America for good, we have to get our own home and life together. He says the purpose of correction is the peaceable fruit of righteousness.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 13:38 And that’s an amen. Hallelujah. But the correction, I got to let God correct me. If I want my children corrected, I got to let God correct me. If the church is going to have an effect on the homes in America, we got to get our home together. Is that true? If we’re going to have an effect on the lives of people in America for good, we got to get our life together. And the purpose of correction is what? The peaceable fruit of righteousness. Peaceable, lack of war, lack of opposition.

Why does he say America is becoming a weak nation?

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Short answer: He says America is becoming a weak nation because it will not listen to God’s corrective word. He says that when God deals seriously with America, beyond economic downturns and plagues such as AIDS and other diseases, the nation will be in anguish.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 14:31 Righteousness produces that peaceable fruit of righteousness. Hallelujah. We are becoming a weak nation because America will not listen to God’s corre... corrective word. And when God decides to deal seriously with America, and not these little things that he’s bringing, like an e... economical downturns and plagues such as AIDS and the STD diseases, when he really gets serious, this nation is going to be in anguish. Ultimatum. Now this is powerful. Ezra is in captivity for the sins of Israel.

What does Ezra’s ultimatum to the king of Persia teach?

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Short answer: He says Ezra was ashamed to ask the king for soldiers because he had told the king that the hand of God is upon all for good that seek him, and his power and wrath is against all that forsake him. He calls this an ultimatum and says the Persian Empire went down.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 15:32 Several thousand went into captivity. In that captivity, God blessed them. They live for God and they serve God. And they came out of that captivity very wealthy. They had to leave homes behind to go back to Israel, their promised land. And so Ezra is talking to the king of Persia. And the king of Persia is offering him a military escort and everything else to go back. But Ezra says this, “I was ashamed to ask of the king a band of soldiers to help us against the enemy in the journey. I was ashamed to go for government for help.

▶ 16:27 Is that getting into your cranial vacuum? I was embarrassed to go to government and ask for help for protection, food, clothing, so forth. Because we had told the king, ‘The hand of our God is upon all for good that seek him.’” Did you hear that? He had went to the king and said, “Listen, the hand of God, he had been preaching the gospel, is for good on all that seek him.” Is protection good? Is having a job good? Yeah. Having clothes good?

▶ 17:19 Having a place to live good? Yes. Having children under control, is that good? Yeah. Having a day for recreation to watch the Super Bowl, is that good? Yes. That’s good. But his power and wrath is against all that forsake him, all that turn their back on him, renounce him. You know, they don’t verbally do it always. They can just neglect God’s word, neglect God, neglect prayer. Are you there? Neglect the house of God. They turn their back. And some can denounce and say, “Oh, you know, I don’t have to do this.” And they can verbally say that, but most of us just turn our back.

▶ 18:15 See, his power and wrath is against those. Now, folks, this is two ultimatums. Are you listening to me? An ultimatum is a proclamation that something, there’s a penalty if something isn’t done. There’s a punishment if something isn’t done. And Ezra has given an ultimatum to the king. Are you there? He’s telling, “King, you’re going to lose your nation if you don’t turn to God.” And he did. The Persian Empire went down. Because when you forsake God, in the end, God’s going to come and deal with you. Amen.

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Scripture (NKJV)

Ezra 8:22 (NKJV)

For I was ashamed to request of the king an escort of soldiers and horsemen to help us against the enemy on the road, because we had spoken to the king, saying, “The hand of our God is upon all those for good who seek Him, but His power and His wrath are against all those who forsake Him.”

— Ezra 8:22 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 16:00

What is Ezra’s proclamation to God, and how does it apply to us?

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Short answer: He says Ezra was effectively telling God that we are seekers and followers of you and you must do us good, and he calls this faith exercised. He says we must first give ourselves to righteousness and accept correction before we ask God to keep his promises.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 19:07 But listen to this. Watch this. He’s also making an ultimate proclamation to God himself. And what he’s saying is, God, we’re seekers of you. We’re followers of you. And you must do us good. Are you there? Now this is faith exercised. God, you promised to protect my home. You promised to give me a job and, and provisions for my home. You promised to give me health and a strong mind and all. God, you’ve got to produce. This king of Persia needs to see you are God.

▶ 20:00 These people in Persia needs to see you are God. And we need to see you are God. Hallelujah. Now, isn’t that powerful? He didn’t go up there wimpy. Well, you know, uh, no. He made an ultimatum, an ultimate proclamation. We have set our lives apart to follow you, to seek you, to serve you, and you’ve got to back up your word and bless us with God. Wow. Didn’t God say he would give us the nations for our inheritance? Didn’t Jesus say, “Look on the harvest. They are ripe for the harvest.

▶ 20:51 The fields are ripe for the harvest.” God, we are going to [unclear] with the word. You got to show you are God and back up your word by pricking their hearts and changing their thinkings and saving them and, and, and changing these families. Could that be an amen? See, of the works of my hand command you me. Not that we can go, God, do a miracle here and, you know, snap. No, this is the attitude of that. I gave you promises. Demand that I keep them. But you first got to what? Give yourself to righteousness. You got to accept correction. You’re not going to have much authority in this statement if you don’t let God deal with you and correct you.

Scripture in this part

Scripture (NKJV)

Isaiah 45:11 (NKJV)

Thus says the LORD, The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker: “Ask Me of things to come concerning My sons; And concerning the work of My hands, you command Me.

— Isaiah 45:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:10 (quoted; reference not named in the message)

What attitude toward correction does God bless?

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Short answer: He says that when you say you will accept God’s correction, discipline and verbal correction, then God starts blessing, progressively, not overnight like popcorn. He says people around you may copy the change or get mad at you, and either way you are great.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 21:52 Come on, God. Correct me. Bring it on. But you go to God without an attitude of righteousness and correction and pray that, and he’s just going to go, “Who are you?” But when you say, “God, I’ll accept your correction. I’ll accept your discipline. I’ll accept your verbal correction. I’ll accept God. Just bless my life with good.” And that’s the attitude. Then he starts blessing. And it isn’t popcorn where it’s overnight. It’s progressive. Hallelujah. And then you see a change in you. Or no, you don’t see it at first. People do. And then you see a pe... a change in the people that are around you, because they saw a change in you and liked it and so they copied it, or they get mad at you and start just lambasting you up and down.

What does Proverbs 13:24 teach about prompt correction?

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Short answer: He says God corrects out of love, first verbally, and third by punishment, and reads Proverbs 13:24 that he who loves his child disciplines him promptly. He says God wants to correct us now because he wants to bless our life now, and reads Proverbs 19:18.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 22:47 Either way, you’re great. If they’re changing, you’re great. If they hate you for being righteous, you’re still great according to the sermon on the mount. Ain’t that right? Recognize that God corrects us out of love because he loves us. And that first correction is verbal. You just got it this morning. How many will raise your hand to Jesus and said, “Lord, I got some things in my life I need correcting.” Yes. And that’s all he’s looking for is a good, honest heart. The verbal correction is the way to go. And then the third is punishment. Proverbs 13:24, “He who spares his rod hates his son, but he who loves his child disciplines him promptly.” Now, switching that back to God, will God want to correct us promptly, or does he want to do it three years from now?

▶ 23:52 No, he wants to do it now. Why? Because he wants to bless your life now. Proverbs 19:18, “Correct your son while there is hope, and let not your soul spare for his crying.” They look at you with those beautiful eyes, and mommy, don’t give in.

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Proverbs 13:24 (NKJV)

He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.

— Proverbs 13:24 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 23:05
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Proverbs 19:18 (NKJV)

Chasten your son while there is hope, And do not set your heart on his destruction.

— Proverbs 19:18 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 23:55

More questions this message answers

Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.

What does he say about how many Christians read their Bible?

He says “only 15%, 15% of Christians read their word,” calls that sad, and says the Bible is the foundation of correction.

▶ Watch at 0:56

How does he say you can know whether preachers are preaching the right thing?

He asks how you know preachers are preaching the right thing if you do not get to the book and find out for yourself.

▶ Watch at 2:44

Can you have miracles and not be righteous?

He says “You can have miracles and not be righteous,” and that Daniel had prayers, visions and miracles, but it was his righteousness that would save him.

▶ Watch at 3:38

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Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness,” says the Lord GOD. “If I cause wild beasts to pass through the land, and they empty it, and make it so desolate that no man may pass through because of the beasts, even though these three men were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither sons nor daughters; only they would be delivered, and the land would be desolate. “Or if I bring a sword on that land, and say, ‘Sword, go through the land,’ and I cut off man and beast from it, even though these three men were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither sons nor daughters, but only they themselves would be delivered. “Or if I send a pestilence into that land and pour out My fury on it in blood, and cut off from it man and beast, even though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither son nor daughter; they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness.” For thus says the Lord GOD: “How much more it shall be when I send My four severe judgments on Jerusalem—the sword and famine and wild beasts and pestilence—to cut off man and beast from it?

— Ezekiel 14:14-21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:55

What does he say saved Noah, Daniel and Job?

He says it was not the ark, not Noah’s faith, and not the prosperity of Job and Daniel that would save them; it was their righteousness.

▶ Watch at 4:30

Scripture (NKJV)

Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness,” says the Lord GOD. “If I cause wild beasts to pass through the land, and they empty it, and make it so desolate that no man may pass through because of the beasts, even though these three men were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither sons nor daughters; only they would be delivered, and the land would be desolate. “Or if I bring a sword on that land, and say, ‘Sword, go through the land,’ and I cut off man and beast from it, even though these three men were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither sons nor daughters, but only they themselves would be delivered. “Or if I send a pestilence into that land and pour out My fury on it in blood, and cut off from it man and beast, even though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live,” says the Lord GOD, “they would deliver neither son nor daughter; they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness.” For thus says the Lord GOD: “How much more it shall be when I send My four severe judgments on Jerusalem—the sword and famine and wild beasts and pestilence—to cut off man and beast from it?

— Ezekiel 14:14-21 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:55

What does he say about trusting in armaments?

He says some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we will remember the name of the Lord our God, and that “we got to have arms, but let me tell you, we got to have God.”

▶ Watch at 5:23

Scripture (NKJV)

Some trust in chariots, and some in horses; But we will remember the name of the LORD our God.

— Psalm 20:7 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 5:30

What does he say it means to discern the Lord’s body?

He says believers are the body of Christ, whose body died for our sins, and that some are weak, sick or dead before their time because they did not discern the Lord’s body.

▶ Watch at 7:10

Scripture (NKJV)

For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.

— 1 Corinthians 11:30 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:12

Does correction feel good?

He says no chastening seems joyous for the present, and he did not enjoy disciplining his kids and they were not glad about it either. He says afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those trained by it.

▶ Watch at 8:59

Scripture (NKJV)

Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

— Hebrews 12:9-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:04

What does he say about psychologists and straightening out the home?

He says we go to psychologists and psychiatry and spend 50 bucks for a half hour to straighten out our home, when we just need to go to the Bible and get our life straightened out.

▶ Watch at 12:35

What does he say peaceable fruit of righteousness means?

He says peaceable means lack of war, lack of opposition, and that righteousness produces that peaceable fruit.

▶ Watch at 13:38

Scripture (NKJV)

Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live? For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

— Hebrews 12:9-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:04

What does he say it looks like to forsake God?

He says people do not always forsake God verbally; they can neglect God’s word, neglect God, neglect prayer and neglect the house of God, and most of us just turn our back.

▶ Watch at 17:19

Scripture (NKJV)

For I was ashamed to request of the king an escort of soldiers and horsemen to help us against the enemy on the road, because we had spoken to the king, saying, “The hand of our God is upon all those for good who seek Him, but His power and His wrath are against all those who forsake Him.”

— Ezra 8:22 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 16:00

What does he say an ultimatum is?

He says an ultimatum is a proclamation that there is a penalty or punishment if something is not done, and that Ezra gave one to the king.

▶ Watch at 18:15

Does God bless right away when we accept correction?

He says it is not like popcorn where it happens overnight; it is progressive, and others may notice the change before you do.

▶ Watch at 21:52

Why does he say God wants to correct us now rather than later?

He asks whether God wants to correct us promptly or three years from now and answers “No, he wants to do it now. Why? Because he wants to bless your life now.”

▶ Watch at 22:47

Scripture (NKJV)

He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.

— Proverbs 13:24 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 23:05

About this transcript

This transcript comes from YouTube’s automatic English captions, which supply the timing and the words. Punctuation, capitalization and paragraphing were added by hand, and obvious caption errors were corrected; his wording was not rewritten. “[unclear]” marks a word or name that was not clear. Editor note: he says Ezekiel 14:21 “sums it up,” but the lines about Noah, Daniel and Job are in Ezekiel 14:14 and 14:20; verse 21 names the four judgments (sword, famine, wild beasts, plague). He first says “Colossian” and then gives 1 Corinthians 11:30. The Ezra passage he reads is Ezra 8:22 (he names Ezra but not the verse), and he quotes Psalm 20:7, Isaiah 45:11 and John 4:35 without naming them. The captions garble one place name, shown as [unclear] and not guessed. Outside facts he mentions, such as that only “15% of Christians read their word” and “30-some new” sexually transmitted diseases, are his own claims and have not been checked here. He also says HIV and other diseases are a visitation from God, mentions a woman pastor ridiculed on a news program, and says the Persian Empire went down; these are his own remarks and are kept as spoken. Select any time to jump to that moment on YouTube.

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