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God Is the Judge · Part 1 · Pastor David G. Kincer, Vine Cluster Church · Uploaded June 18, 2014 · 29:02

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From the sermonGod Is the Judge Part 1 · Pastor David G. Kincer▶ 0:00

In this message Pastor David G. Kincer answers two challenges, why a good God allows suffering and why He requires the killing of women and children, by teaching that God is Judge with the right and necessity to judge now and at the end. He gives Bible examples before the law (Cain, Enoch, Noah) and after it, and distinguishes shadow laws from civil laws.

What does the parable of the wheat and tares say about the righteous and the wicked? (Matthew 13:30)

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Short answer: He says Jesus said to let the tares and the wheat “grow together” until the harvest, which is the end of the age when Jesus returns. He says the wicked will get more wicked and the righteous will get more righteous until then.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 0:00 In Matthew 13:30, Jesus said, in the parable of the [unclear] and the field and the enemy coming in and sowing tares, He said, “Let both the tares,” the righteous and the wicked, “grow together.” Let both the tares and the wheat grow together, the righteous and the wicked grow together until the harvest. And He tells us the time of the harvest is at the end of the age, the end of the world, when Jesus returns again. So what He’s saying is the wicked and the righteous are going to be in the earth, and the wicked are going to get more wicked and the righteous are going to get more righteous until the time of the harvest. They are to grow together. All right. Now we’re going to also answer these two questions, or these two challenges, by our enemy: “If the Bible’s God is good, why does He allow sufferings and wars in the earth?”

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Matthew 13:30 (NKJV)

Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”

— Matthew 13:30 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 0:00

What two challenges does he answer: why does God allow suffering, and why does God require the killing of women and children?

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Short answer: He says two challenges are, “if the Bible’s God is good, why does He allow sufferings and wars in the earth,” and why God requires the killing of women and children. He says he will answer them by establishing that God is Judge with the right and necessity to judge, and by showing God’s judgment before and after the law was given.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 1:02 And “Why does God require the killing of women and children?” And “The Bible is just a bunch of BS,” bull, sh-, sh-. Okay, that’s the challenge for my enemies. We’re going to answer these questions while we are addressing “God is the Judge.” And what we’re going to do, we’re going to establish that God is Judge and has the right and necessity to judge. Then we’re going to establish the evidence of God’s judgment before the law was given and then after the law was given, and then we’re going to show you how the righteous and the wicked are to grow together until Christ come. God is the Judge, and He has sentenced the wicked to eternal life in the lake of fire, according to Jesus Christ and His statement. He is the Judge, and He has sentenced all the wicked to the lake of fire. All right.

Does God have the right and the necessity to judge, and does He judge now? (Psalm 75:7, Ecclesiastes 3:17)

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Short answer: He reads Psalm 75:7 that God is Judge and Ecclesiastes 3:17 that “God shall judge the righteous and the wicked,” both now and at the harvest. He says God “didn’t wait for the Judgment Day” with Herod Agrippa, and “if He cannot deal with things now, He is worthless.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 2:08 Now, establishing that He is the Judge and has the right and the necessity to judge: Psalm 75:7 plainly says God is the what? Judge. Ecclesiastes 3:17: “God shall judge the righteous and the wicked.” Okay, and he says there is a time. In this Scripture, “there is a time, there is a season for every purpose and for every work.” You see, so what does that tell us? He is the Judge of the righteous and the wicked both now and when He comes at the harvest, at the end of the time. Okay, and I can give you proof. Herod Agrippa, in Acts 22:23, they exalted him as God, he did not renounce it, and so the Bible says God smote him with worms, that he died. See, God didn’t wait for the Judgment Day, He dealt with it now. And my submission to these people that challenge my God, the God of the Bible, is He is the Judge, and He has the right to judge, and He has the necessity to judge. It is necessary that He deals with things now, and if He cannot deal with things now, He is worthless. And why would I want to serve a worthless God?

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Psalm 75:7 (NKJV)

But God is the Judge: He puts down one, And exalts another.

— Psalm 75:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:18
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Ecclesiastes 3:17 (NKJV)

I said in my heart, “God shall judge the righteous and the wicked, For there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.”

— Ecclesiastes 3:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:25
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Acts 12:21-23 (NKJV)

So on a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat on his throne and gave an oration to them. And the people kept shouting, “The voice of a god and not of a man!” Then immediately an angel of the Lord struck him, because he did not give glory to God. And he was eaten by worms and died.

— Acts 12:21-23 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:11

How did God judge a wicked king of Judah and his family?

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Short answer: He tells of a king of Judah who killed his own brothers and led Israel into sin; six years into his reign God “smote him with an incurable disease of the bowels,” he suffered two years and died at age 40. He says God also dealt with the king’s whole family, and that “God has a right to deal with wickedness right now because He’s the Judge.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 3:55 In the Old Testament, [unclear] was the king of Judah. He killed his own brothers, he caused Israel to sin, commit adultery, sexual immorality, and everything else, the king. So God comes along. He was 32 years old when he began to reign, and God came just six years later and smote him with an incurable disease of the bowels. For two years he suffered in pain, and then died from that incurable disease, and the Bible says God smote him. God judged him. He also judged his whole family, his wife, who was the daughter of Ahab, an evil king of Israel that served Baal. Her children produced were all dealt with. Are you there, church? See, God has a right to deal with wickedness right now, because He’s the Judge, and don’t you go calling my God unrighteous and unfair and everything else because He’s doing His job. Can I hear an amen? As you can tell, I get upset and I get fired up when people attack the Bible and God. There are Bible answers for this stuff.

What does it mean that God is a judge? (Ezekiel 18:30)

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Short answer: He reads Ezekiel 18:30, “I will judge you,” according to your ways, and says a judge is “a lawgiver,” “an executioner,” “a punisher,” and “a justifier of the innocent.” He says Christianity is “an entryway into the spiritual kingdom,” not just a philosophy of principles to live by.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 5:39 So he died at the age of 40. See, there is a time for every purpose of judging, and God needs to deal with things now and in the eternities. Ezekiel 18:30: “I will judge you. I will judge all of you according to your ways,” your lifestyle, your choice of living. I’m going to judge you. And now remember, “judge” is a lawgiver, He is an executioner, He is a punisher, and He is a justifier of the innocent. That’s what a judge is. Does that sound like our God? Absolutely. And I don’t like it when the homosexuals and the humanists and the atheists and the liberals and all that attack the Bible and attack God. Church, we have answers, and we have a God that isn’t a fairy tale. It’s not just a philosophy, as Bill O’Reilly said. Christianity is more than a philosophy. It’s an entryway into the spiritual kingdom, the spiritual domain. Hallelujah. The supernatural. Don’t ever reduce Christianity down to just a mere philosophy of principles to live by. We do have principles to live by, but we have a supernatural God that empowers us to live rightly. There’s no other religion in the world that has that.

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Ezekiel 18:30 (NKJV)

“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways,” says the Lord GOD. “Repent, and turn from all your transgressions, so that iniquity will not be your ruin.

— Ezekiel 18:30 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:54

Will God judge secret sins? (Romans 2:6, Romans 3:5-6)

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Short answer: He says “God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ,” and “you ain’t hiding it from God.” He says that when people call the Bible a myth and say God is unrighteous, God answers in Romans 3, “is God unrighteous who takes vengeance?” and vengeance means “making things right because someone has done something wrong.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 7:18 Romans, the New Testament, 2:6: “God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ.” You think you’re hiding something, huh? God sees it all. You might hide it from your mama, your daddy, or your wife or your husband, you ain’t hiding it from God, and God will judge you even though you’re doing it in secret, not publicly. He’s going to hold you accountable. Romans 3:5-6: God, here’s the statement. See, they said my God was unrighteous, that’s what they’re saying, that the Bible is just a bunch of BS, it’s a bunch of fairy tales and myth. That’s exactly what the homosexual leader said, that was his words: “Don’t believe the BS of the Bible.” That was his exact words. The atheists call it a myth, a fairy tale. And so God answers them in Romans: “Is God unrighteous who takes vengeance?” You know what vengeance is, don’t you? Yeah, making things right because someone has done something wrong, a day of reckoning, you hold them accountable.

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Romans 2:16 (NKJV)

in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

— Romans 2:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:18
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Romans 3:5-6 (NKJV)

But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unjust who inflicts wrath? (I speak as a man.) Certainly not! For then how will God judge the world?

— Romans 3:5-6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:43

Why does God allow suffering, and what about the women and children of Canaan?

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Short answer: He says God allows suffering “because He deals with the wickedness and the sin in this world now,” including wars and plagues, and that He sentenced the women and children of Canaan because “they had been sinning for hundreds of years” and their sin came to maturity. He says “he has the right to do that,” and that God’s decisions are His business, and “we need to fear God.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 8:37 I told you before, when I was in Salvador, a band came into a church family’s home and killed the father and took all the livestock and the valuables that they could carry away. Well, the people in that little village went after them and slaughtered them right there where they found them, just killed them, took matters right into their own hands. And I got to deal with it there. There was Baptist people, they invited me to come and preach at their Baptist church, and I got to address all these issues and preach there and baptize this family. God, yes, He does allow suffering. He allows it because He deals with the wickedness and the sin in this world now. So there is suffering, there is wars, there is genocide, through plagues and so forth. He allows the killing of women and kids because of unjust living and unjust violence. He comes, and yes, He sentences the women and the kids of Canaan land to death. He’s the Judge. They had been sinning for hundreds of years, their sin come to maturity, and God said, “Okay, the time for accountability is here. It’s going to cost you everything.” Folks, He has the right to do that. So don’t go twisting things around like our God is some kind of nitwit. He will deal with a whole nation. “God forbid” that He’s unrighteous because He’s doing His job. That’s what God does.

▶ 10:20 “For how shall God judge the world?” If He can’t take vengeance, if He can’t punish the wicked doer, how’s He going to judge? How’s He going to correct things, how’s He going to deal with things? And He’s not unrighteous when He deals even with a whole nation and has women and kids killed. That’s His business, that’s His decision, and we need to fear God and avoid those kind of decisions. Hallelujah. The problem in America is we get sweet-talked every Sunday in most churches. It’s just a bunch of flattery, sweet talk, and we’re really focusing on worship and just touching Jesus, and we’re not getting the strength of God’s Word in us that will break the strongholds of the enemy. We living in a fairy-tale land where we think just our little prayer is going to change everything. Are you kidding me?

Is Jesus coming back as Savior or as Judge? (2 Timothy 4:1, Genesis 18:25)

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Short answer: He reads 2 Timothy 4:1, “Jesus Christ shall judge the living and the dead at His appearing,” and says “He’s coming as the Judge, not as the Savior.” He says God justifies the righteous, will judge sexual immorality, and deals with things now “to get our attention to repent.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 11:28 Now, 2 Timothy 4:1: “Jesus Christ shall judge the living and the dead at His appearing.” See, there it is again. When He comes, He’s coming as the Judge, not as the Savior, He’s coming as the Judge. Hebrews 13:4: “Marriage is honorable, and the bed undefiled, but whoremongers,” sexual immorality people, “and adulterers God will judge.” And He won’t wait for the Judgment Day to do that, He’ll deal with it now. Genesis 18:25: “Be it far from You to slay the righteous with the wicked, and that the righteous should be as the wicked, be it far from You. Shall not the Judge of all the earth do what is right?” See, the God of all the earth will justify the righteous. Yes, we may make some mistakes, we may fall, get back up, repent, keep going, but God will justify the righteous, and He will deal now, and I’m going to show you proof of that, with the wicked, and He will deal with it when He comes for eternity. See, He’ll deal with it now to get our attention to repent, He’ll deal with it when He comes for eternity, and I don’t want God dealing with me then. How about you? I’d rather He deal with me now and get me turned around.

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2 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:

— 2 Timothy 4:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:33
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Hebrews 13:4 (NKJV)

Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

— Hebrews 13:4 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 11:49
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Genesis 18:25 (NKJV)

Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?”

— Genesis 18:25 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 12:03

Will everyone stand before the judgment seat of Christ, and is there any debate? (Romans 14:10)

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Short answer: He reads Romans 14:10 that “we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ,” and says every knee shall bow. He says that in a vision of the judgment, “nobody was arguing,” that everyone admitted they knew they were wrong, and that “there’s no compromise when it comes to truth and right.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 13:01 All right, Romans 14:10: “Why do you judge or show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.” How many? All. And it’s in this context that “every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess to God.” I’ve told you many times from the pulpit that when God gave me a vision of the judgment, nobody was arguing. God was saying what was truth, and nobody answered back. They admitted that everything they did, they knew they were wrong when they did it. So don’t think there’s any debate going on up there. God is laying out truth, and you, when you hit His light, it’s exposed. Folks, God is a God of light, and everything you’ve done in darkness is exposed. Everything. And there’s no arguments up there, there’s no debate. You see, He is the Judge. Can I hear an amen? You know, we debate in America, we negotiate, we compromise. Obama’s wanting the Republicans to compromise and so forth. There’s no compromise when it comes to truth and right. We can’t do a little wrong so we can get a little right. Are you there?

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Romans 14:10-11 (NKJV)

But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written: “As I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.”

— Romans 14:10-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 13:03

What does he say about Christians who don’t persuade people? (2 Corinthians 5:10-11)

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Short answer: He says that in God’s light everyone is exposed and “he ain’t going to say a word.” Reading 2 Corinthians 5:10-11, he says that because we know the terror of the Lord, “we persuade men,” and that Christians “that are not persuading people, you’re worthless.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 14:35 This God is powerful, and I guarantee you, you’re going to bow. Hitler’s bowing right now. You see Hugh Hefner, he’s going to be dying pretty soon, and he’s going to be bowing to the Lord Jesus Christ. And he said in an interview that I saw last year that he is a righteous man, a man of character. I thought, my Lord, aren’t we really getting ridiculous in America? And when he stands before Christ, let me tell you, he ain’t going to say a word. In that light you’re exposed. “And we’re going to receive the things done in our body.” All of us must appear before the judgment seat, 2 Corinthians 5:10, “whether it be good or whether it be bad. Therefore, knowing the terror of the Lord,” we know what God is going to do to unjust people, wicked people, both now and eternity, because we know that “we persuade men.” Christians that are not persuading people, you’re worthless. You’re just like the other religions’ gods, their gods are worthless. And if you’re not persuading people by your lifestyle and by your word, you’re worthless, you’re not helping anybody.

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2 Corinthians 5:10-11 (NKJV)

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.

— 2 Corinthians 5:10-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:27

Does God care about the wicked, and what does Bible morality protect you from?

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Short answer: He says God does care about the wicked, and “he’s dealing with them so correction and get them to change,” but if they won’t change “they deserve what they’re getting.” He says “Bible morality is blessed and protected by God,” and “churches that refuse to preach this are worthless.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 16:07 Does God care about the wicked? Absolutely, yes. He’s going to judge them, yes. He’s going to deal with them, but He’s dealing with them so correction and get them to change, and if they won’t change, yes, they deserve what they’re getting. So Bible morality escapes the judgment, both now and eternal. Hallelujah. Bible morality is blessed and protected by God, and I wouldn’t be standing here before you today if that wasn’t true. I’ve had guns pulled on me, I’ve had, I’ve told you these stories. Okay, the Bible clearly states that God will punish all that do evil, both now and for eternity. Can I hear an amen? And churches that refuse to preach this are worthless. They’re just worthless.

How did God judge before the law was given? (Cain, Genesis 4:13)

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Short answer: He says the law did not come until over 2,000 years after creation, yet God personally judged Cain for killing Abel, banishing him and sentencing him to hard labor. He says Cain complained, “my punishment is greater than I can bear,” and that “you can’t get any more emotional than God,” yet He stood for right and truth.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 17:22 Historical evidence of God’s judgment, God doing His job before the law came. We’re going to deal with it before the law. So the law didn’t come in till over 2,000 years after the creation. Genesis 4:13: Cain killed Abel. God came and personally judged Cain Himself, and Cain complained and said, “My punishment is greater than I can bear.” Oh, it’s okay to kill your brother, but God forbid that we do anything to you. Huh? Isn’t that the way the mentality is here? It’s inhumane to execute anyone. You know, women leaders are really getting me upset. They’re beginning to really irritate me, because they’re all for gun control, they’re all for stupid things, because they follow their emotions instead of truth. And folks, I have no problem with women leaders, the Bible has women leaders, but they got to be leaders. You can’t decide things on your feelings. You can only decide things with truth, and I don’t care how emotional you get about things, you’ve got to decide things by what’s right. And we’ve got a bunch of women in Congress, and we’ve had them for years, and they’ve done nothing to help America. If you’re going to be a leader, be one. Don’t give me your women stuff. Same way with minorities. We got all kinds of minorities now in governmental places, and they’re worthless.

▶ 18:59 They’re not changing America. Why? Because they’re not turning America to Bible morality, they’re not standing up for Bible morality. Can I hear an amen? And the men leaders have been worthless for over 200 years, or 200 years, letting this nation go to where it is. It’s gone now. So his punishment was, he was banished. He was banished and he was sentenced to hard labor. “No, this is too much. This is inhumane. I got to spend my life in solitary confinement, and I got to work hard to eat, feed myself? You’re not even going to give me food?” That’s one of our problems. We put them in jail and we feed them, give them an exercise room, give a TV, all the comforts at home, and we pay for it. Are you hearing me today? Did God judge him? And you can’t get any more emotional than God. He has all the emotions that we have, and yet He stood for right and truth.

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Genesis 4:13 (NKJV)

And Cain said to the LORD, “My punishment is greater than I can bear!

— Genesis 4:13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 17:40

What do Enoch and Noah show about God’s judgment? (Genesis 5:24, Genesis 6)

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Short answer: He says God judged Enoch and “justified him and took him,” showing a coming time when the righteous are taken and rewarded with heaven. He says Noah preached 100 years, God saved Noah’s family and three women who responded, and “they were all destroyed” in the flood, adults and children, and he says not to call God unjust “because He’s doing His job.”

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 20:26 Genesis 5:24: “God took Enoch,” because he was righteous. See, He sentenced Enoch. When He judged Enoch, He justified him and took him. Enoch did not die, showing us there’s a time coming where all on the earth will be taken the same way, rewarded with heaven. How many want the reward of heaven? Yeah. Hallelujah. And there’s a generation that’s going to be taken, that righteous, this generation, and let me tell you, I’m one that doesn’t believe it’s a handful just surviving, just hanging on when Jesus comes. Genesis 6: God saved Noah plus seven. Okay, God saved Noah and those that heard his preaching, and those that heard his preaching were his three sons and his wife and three heathen women that responded to Noah’s message and his boys married them and watch their family destroyed in the flood. Hallelujah. You ever think of that? Ah, three. Most of us give up persuading men if we don’t get one soul saved in one week of effort, we just quit. Noah preached 100 years and only [unclear] his family and three women converted, and kept on preaching, and then He destroyed the wicked. Ever how many was there? They were destroyed. Children, babies, pregnant women, poor, rich, they were all destroyed. And don’t you call my God an unjust God because He’s doing His job. I’m going to get fiery and I’m going to get you with the Scriptures, so you better be ready to take the punches. You may talk to other people that way and get them all confused, but you ain’t confusing me. I know this God, He’s real.

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Genesis 5:24 (NKJV)

And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.

— Genesis 5:24 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 20:26
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Genesis 6:5-8 (NKJV)

Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the LORD said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

— Genesis 6:5-8 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:10

Who has the responsibility to punish the wicked? (Genesis 9:6, Genesis 38:7)

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Short answer: He says after the flood God gave judgment to mankind, “capital punishment was instituted by God and given the responsibility to human beings.” He says that when men don’t do their job, as with Judah’s wicked sons, God steps in, and “it’s mankind’s fault” because they didn’t do their job.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 22:54 Now, Genesis 9:6, after the flood, God gives judgment to mankind. You see, about 1,500 years ago by here, and God gives judgment to mankind, 15,700, somewhere in there. “Whosoever sheds man’s blood, by man’s blood shall he be shed.” Capital punishment was instituted by God and given the responsibility to human beings to do it. So this is what I tell them: you’re blaming my God for the suffering and the pain that’s in the earth when it’s your fault. You’re not doing your job. If you would be punishing the wicked and persuading them, we wouldn’t have this nonsense going on. Don’t you blame God for your lack of strength and guts to punish and correct wicked people. Good place for a clap. Yes. Hallelujah. Judgment is given to man. He doesn’t wait for the Judgment Day, folks, doesn’t wait for the Judgment Day.

▶ 24:16 Genesis 38:7. All right, Judah had a couple of kids. The firstborn, [unclear], was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and no one did anything about it. See, they’re not doing their job, so God come down and slew him. His younger brother, not learning from it, messed up too, and God slew him. Judah wouldn’t correct it. “Oh, that’s my son.” Their mother wouldn’t correct it. “Oh, that’s my boy, he’s a good boy.” “Oh, mama’s kid, you’re a good boy.” So God came and dealt with it. Are you there? Now whose fault that God had to come down and do His job? Mankind’s job, because they didn’t do their job. It’s mankind’s fault, I’m sorry, because they didn’t do their job. Proverbs 10:27: “The wicked’s years shall be shortened.” Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Don’t ever forget that.

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Genesis 9:6 (NKJV)

“Whoever sheds man’s blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man.

— Genesis 9:6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 22:55
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Genesis 38:7 (NKJV)

But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD, and the LORD killed him.

— Genesis 38:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 24:16
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Proverbs 10:27 (NKJV)

The fear of the LORD prolongs days, But the years of the wicked will be shortened.

— Proverbs 10:27 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 25:20

What is the difference between shadow laws and civil laws? (Exodus 24:12)

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Short answer: He says God gave the Ten Commandments and the other laws, and that there are shadow laws, civil laws, spiritual laws and wise laws. He says shadow laws are “illustrations of what Christ was going to do” and ended in Christ, but “civil laws stay,” and it’s never okay to commit adultery or murder.

From the sermonTranscript of this part · Pastor David G. Kincer

▶ 25:38 Now after the law, God is doing His job after delegating judgment to men, but He still does His job when men won’t do their job. Exodus 24:12: “I will give you tables of stone.” That’s the Ten Commandments. “I will give you a law.” That’s all the other laws and commandments, that’s the statutes, that’s everything. Remember, there are shadow laws, civil laws, there are spiritual laws, and there are wise laws that He gave him. Okay, civil laws have the punishment of eternal damnation. When you habitually hurt yourself and others, God will judge you eternally, and He will come and deal with you now. Shadow laws are illustrations of what Christ was going to do when He came, and that’s the law that was ended by the Christ. It’s not the civil law. It’s never okay to commit adultery, it’s never okay to murder. That is a civil law that stands firm for eternity.

▶ 26:55 Amen. And when these people say, “You’re not under law, you’re under grace,” and they think that the whole law was banished, “Now I can commit adultery”? No, no, no, no. Civil laws stay. It’s the shadow laws that are fulfilled, is what’s ended, in Christ. See, the lamb being slain for sin back there was a shadow of Christ dying, and see, we don’t need shadows anymore, we got the real deal. Amen. You see, not eating, not eating catfish was a shadow law about righteousness and living rightly. You see, Christ comes, He was just, no sin, and we live rightly, that’s fulfilling it. You can eat catfish all you want to, and nobody got stoned for eating catfish. Are you there? They try to twist things around, you know, “He gets stoned for eating shrimp.” That’s what the homosexual say: “You get stoned for eating shrimp.” You don’t even know the Bible. Don’t. Only one person was ever stoned for a shadow law, and that was picking up sticks on the Sabbath day. God did it one time, never did it again. Okay, the illustration of the punishment for breaking the real law that was to come. Are you there? Does that make sense? If God goes around killing everybody, how’s He going to save them? Especially shadow laws, and you’re to teach them. So what is the church supposed to be doing? We supposed to be, you know, looking down on the wicked, or we supposed to be teaching them, teaching them, persuading them? “God’s going to get you.”

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Scripture (NKJV)

Exodus 24:12 (NKJV)

Then the LORD said to Moses, “Come up to Me on the mountain and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the law and commandments which I have written, that you may teach them.”

— Exodus 24:12 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 25:56

More questions this message answers

Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.

Does he say God judges the wicked now or only at the end?

He says both. He says God is Judge of “the righteous and the wicked both now and when He comes,” and that he will show historical evidence of God’s judgment before and after the law.

▶ Watch at 1:02

Scripture (NKJV)

I said in my heart, “God shall judge the righteous and the wicked, For there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.”

— Ecclesiastes 3:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:25

What does he say happened to the ruler in Acts who accepted being called a god?

He says “they exalted him as God, he did not renounce it, and so the Bible says God smote him with worms, that he died,” and that God dealt with it then and there.

▶ Watch at 2:08

Scripture (NKJV)

So on a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat on his throne and gave an oration to them. And the people kept shouting, “The voice of a god and not of a man!” Then immediately an angel of the Lord struck him, because he did not give glory to God. And he was eaten by worms and died.

— Acts 12:21-23 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:11

What does he say the word “judge” includes?

He says “judge is a lawgiver, He is an executioner, He is a punisher, and He is a justifier of the innocent. That’s what a judge is.”

▶ Watch at 5:39

Scripture (NKJV)

“Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways,” says the Lord GOD. “Repent, and turn from all your transgressions, so that iniquity will not be your ruin.

— Ezekiel 18:30 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:54

Does he say Christianity is just a philosophy?

No. He says it is “an entryway into the spiritual kingdom, the spiritual domain,” and that “we have a supernatural God that empowers us to live rightly.”

▶ Watch at 5:39

Can you hide sin from God?

No. He says “you might hide it from your mama, your daddy, or your wife or your husband, you ain’t hiding it from God, and God will judge you even though you’re doing it in secret.”

▶ Watch at 7:18

Scripture (NKJV)

in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

— Romans 2:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:18

What does he say vengeance is?

He says vengeance is “making things right because someone has done something wrong, a day of reckoning, you hold them accountable.”

▶ Watch at 7:18

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But if our unrighteousness demonstrates the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unjust who inflicts wrath? (I speak as a man.) Certainly not! For then how will God judge the world?

— Romans 3:5-6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:43

What does he say is the problem in churches in America?

He says “we get sweet-talked every Sunday in most churches,” focusing on worship and touching Jesus but “not getting the strength of God’s Word in us that will break the strongholds of the enemy.”

▶ Watch at 10:20

What does he say he saw in a vision of the judgment?

He says “nobody was arguing,” God “was saying what was truth,” and everyone “admitted that everything they did they knew they were wrong when they did it.”

▶ Watch at 13:01

Scripture (NKJV)

But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written: “As I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.”

— Romans 14:10-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 13:03

Does he say you can do a little wrong to get a little right?

No. He says “there’s no compromise when it comes to truth and right. We can’t do a little wrong so we can get a little right.”

▶ Watch at 13:01

Whom does he blame for suffering in the earth?

He says to those who blame God for the suffering, “it’s your fault. You’re not doing your job,” and that if the wicked were punished and persuaded “we wouldn’t have this nonsense going on.”

▶ Watch at 22:54

Scripture (NKJV)

“Whoever sheds man’s blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man.

— Genesis 9:6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 22:55

What does he say happened to Judah’s two oldest sons?

He says the firstborn “was wicked in the sight of the Lord and no one did anything about it,” so God slew him, and the younger brother, “not learning from it,” was slain too.

▶ Watch at 24:16

Scripture (NKJV)

But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD, and the LORD killed him.

— Genesis 38:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 24:16

Does he say grace ended the whole law?

No. He says “civil laws stay, it’s the shadow laws that are fulfilled,” so “it’s never okay to commit adultery, it’s never okay to murder.”

▶ Watch at 26:55

What does he say the church should be doing with the wicked?

He asks, “we supposed to be, you know, looking down on the wicked, or we supposed to be teaching them, teaching them, persuading them?”

▶ Watch at 26:55

About this transcript

This transcript comes from YouTube’s automatic English captions, which supply the timing and the words. Punctuation, capitalization and paragraphing were added by hand, and obvious caption errors were corrected; his wording was not rewritten. “[unclear]” marks a word or name that was not clear. Editor note: he calls the death of the ruler who accepted worship “Acts 22:23”; the passage is Acts 12:23, and the NKJV text of Acts 12:21-23 is shown. He cites “Romans, the New Testament, 2:6” for “God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ”; those words are Romans 2:16, which is the NKJV text shown. The name of the king of Judah near 3:55 is garbled in the captions and shown as [unclear]; the story he tells matches 2 Chronicles 21, but the name is not guessed. “[Unclear]” marks four short spots. He speaks about public figures, politics, women and minorities in government, and capital punishment; these views are his own. Select any time to jump to that moment on YouTube.

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