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In this message Pastor David G. Kincer begins a look at four difficult issues in Revelation 20: the bottomless pit, Satan bound and loosed, the thousand years, and the first resurrection. He first questions the pre-tribulation rapture picture, then shows from Luke, Romans and Revelation what the bottomless pit is. He argues that Satan has been bound and loosed before, citing 1 Chronicles 21, Job and Luke 10, and that Satan was cast out of the earth when Jesus was lifted up.
What does he say about the picture of the pre-tribulation rapture?
Short answer: He shows a picture of the pre-tribulation rapture theory and says he is “shocked that they have Jesus up there in the sky being seen.” He argues that if Jesus really appeared, “the world’s going to know what’s going on,” and that “that’s exactly what the Bible says when he comes, every eye shall” see him.
▶ 0:01 And today we’re going to hit a topic that I, I have titled “Four Difficult Issues to Understand” in Revelations chapter 20, and we’re going to try and give you some clear understanding of these things, so when you hear things on the radio and TV, you have a mind that can filter it and organize it and make sense out of it. Uh, here is a picture of the pre-tribulation rapture theory, where the church is raptured out, and I’m shocked that they have Jesus up there in the sky being seen.
▶ 0:49 Because, you know, uh, in the movie Left Behind and these end-time pre-tribulation rapture movies, they have the saints being called up, and the world not knowing what went on. But if Jesus really appeared, how many you know, the world’s going to know what’s going on. Yeah, there ain’t going to be nobody, “What’s happening? Where’d everybody go?” So I’m shocked that Jesus is shown here, but uh, that’s exactly what the Bible says when he comes, every eye shall what? See him. So there’s no, uh, lack of knowledge. And you see the people coming out of the graves over here, you see these two people coming out of the car, this guy already left, and uh, that car accidents, airplanes hitting buildings and crashing because the pilot went to heaven, and all kinds of, of catastrophic problems because the saints went, in auto accidents and car, planes falling and crashing, and so
Scripture in this part
Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)
Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.
— Revelation 1:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:16 (quoted; reference not named in the message)What are the four difficult things to understand in Revelation 20?
Short answer: He calls the rapture picture “a great theory, but it is a theory.” The four things in Revelation 20 are “the bottomless pit,” Satan bound and chained in the bottomless pit and then loosed, a thousand years where Satan is bound and the martyrs reign with Christ, and “the first resurrection.”
▶ 1:48 forth. Uh, it’s a great theory, but it is a theory. And in Revelations chapter 20, there are four difficult things that we are going to, to discuss this morning. Number one, the bottomless pit. Number two, Satan bound, chained in the bottomless pit, and then loosed. And a thousand years, where Satan is bound and the martyrs reign with Christ. And then the fourth one is this topic called the first resurrection. Okay, fair enough. Hallelujah. Revelations 20 is going to be discussing these four areas. Now, last week we saw in the war of the word that God dealt with
Does he say Jesus returns with a literal army and swords?
Short answer: He says “He didn’t come down with an army literally and war with swords and bows and arrows.” He says God dealt with nations with his word, backed up by plagues, famine and wars between tribes and nations, and “God’s power is in his word.”
▶ 2:43 nations with his word, and he backed up his word by using plagues and acts of God and famine and wars between tribes and nations to fulfill his word. He didn’t come down with an army literally and war with swords and bows and arrows. You remember the sword that came out of Jesus’s mouth was what? The word of God. See, God’s power is in his word, and those carcasses and all that is not going to be from God’s army annihilating the people of the earth in a real war. It’s going to be God’s word causes it to happen. Are you with me? All right, somebody said I didn’t make that clear last week, so I’m trying to clarify
Scripture in this part
Revelation 19:15 (NKJV)
Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
— Revelation 19:15 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:07 (quoted; reference not named in the message)How does he illustrate the bottomless pit with a whirlpool and a black hole?
Short answer: He shows a lake draining through a dam outlet and a NASA black hole photo as natural pictures of the pit, and says “God doesn’t use natural things to chain, he just uses his word.” He says science cannot explain gravity: “Try to get science to really show you and clearly explain what gravity is, and they can’t.”
▶ 3:39 it. Now, the first area we’re going to hit is this bottomless pit. Got a picture here of a lake that’s going down the dam outlet, and this big, I’ve been there, and there’s a big tornado, uh, water tornado, water tunnel, funnel, and man, this water is moving fast and going down and so forth, [unclear] me, and I like to get as close as I can, and the rangers, I said, “Don’t you go another step.” I’m very [unclear], but it’s a great noise and it’s a great sight to see. Here at the bottom we have an artist with Satan chained, and uh, I, I get a kick out of this stuff, because God doesn’t use natural things to chain, he just uses his word. When he speaks, you can’t move, you’re not going to move, he doesn’t have to come down. But the chain is given to us so we understand in the natural, uh, in the spiritual what happens, in natural illustrations. And then we got the NASA black hole photo up here, and uh, I love the way science tries to explain this stuff, and I love the way you people fall for
▶ 4:54 it. If a scientist says it, it must be right. Uh, they say this black hole is through the, uh, relativity, uh, the science of relativity, that’s the, and I know you guys know all this stuff, that’s the power of gravity and light and motion in the universe and time, see, and none of them work together, you know. They say that Einstein’s theory was proven, but it’s not proven, cuz they don’t work together. Did you guys know that? See, we just accept a lot of stuff, and so they try to explain this black, black hole by saying a star died, and when the star died it caused a big force of gravity that just drew in everything
▶ 5:54 around, and light could not pass through that area because gravity was so strong. Now, folks, you get science to prove that, and I’ll throw away my Bible. Light is its own character, how many of you know that? Yes. And darkness is the absence of light. There is no thing, such thing as darkness, it’s the absence of light, and we call it darkness. Are you there? Try to get science to really show you and clearly explain what gravity is, and they can’t. They can just tell you what it
What do Revelation 20:1–3 and Luke 8:31 say about the bottomless pit?
Short answer: He reads Revelation 20:1–3, where an angel with the key and a great chain binds the dragon for a thousand years. He turns to Luke 8:31, where the demons say “don’t cast us into the bottomless pit, because we don’t want to be tormented before our time.”
▶ 6:47 does. See, I went to school once, and my mind thinks this way: you tell me something, you better be able to back it up, because my mind thinks in a manner, okay, what about this, what about that, what about this, and if you don’t have answers, then shut up and just admit you don’t have this kind of knowledge. So it’s very interesting, and actually when they really show a real photo of a black hole, there’s no black hole at all, there’s actually light there. How many have you seen real pictures of black holes? Yeah. See, but somewhere in the middle of that light there’s supposed to be a black hole. Anyway, I use these illustrations to illustrate the bottomless pit, the abyss. “An angel,” Revelations 20:1, “having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand, laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, and cast him into the bottomless pit, he shut him up and put a seal up on him, that that he should not deceive the nations anymore till the thousand years be fulfilled, and after that he must be loosed a little season.” Okay, now let’s talk about the bottomless pit in Luke
▶ 8:13 8:31. You remember the story there of the demon-possessed man that had thousands of demons, because they called him Legion, and when Jesus came to Legion, and he had these demons, and he was strong and he could do certain supernatural things. They spoke to him and said, “Hey, Son of God,” they knew who he was, “Have you come to torment us before our time?” See, they knew who Jesus was, they knew his power. Are you there, church? And so Jesus is going to command them to come out, and, and they said, “Listen, don’t cast us into the bottomless pit, because we don’t want to be tormented before our time.” And so he put them in a herd of swine, a herd of pigs, and the pigs went nuts and ran down the cliff, and these people’s, uh, income was
Scripture in this part
Revelation 20:1-3 (NKJV)
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
— Revelation 20:1-3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:41Luke 8:31 (NKJV)
And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.
— Luke 8:31 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:11What does he conclude the bottomless pit is?
Short answer: He says “the bottomless pit is a place where spiritual wicked beings are tormented and imprisoned,” and in Romans 10:7 the abyss is used as “an illustration of the abiding place of the dead.” He says Satan is its king, but the kingdom of God “is more powerful than the kingdom of darkness.”
▶ 9:22 destroyed by these demons. And so, the bottomless pit is a place where spiritual wicked beings are tormented and imprisoned. Amen. Now, you also remember the story in Romans 10:7. He quotes in Romans 10:7 out of Deuteronomy, and he says, “Will we ascend into heaven to bring Christ down, or will we go into the abyss,” the bottomless pit, “to bring Christ up,” that is, from the dead. So Romans, the writer of Romans is using it as an illustration of the abiding place of the dead. Well, Christ wasn’t there anymore, but in Deuteronomy it actually says the sea, “Will you go across the sea?” And in many places in the Bible the sea, the ocean, is described as the deep, you know, a deep thing.
▶ 10:30 So then in Revelations 9:11, which we’ve already covered, that there was an angel that was king over it, called Apollyon, or Destroyer, and so he is the king, and that is Satan himself, he’s the king of the bottomless pit, this kingdom of evil. The beast also came from the bottomless pit, seven heads and ten horns, and the beast that warred with the two prophets and finally killed them came from the bottomless pit, with seven heads and ten horns. An angel of God has the key to the bottomless pit. The angel, he released the, the, uh, dragon, the, uh, locust to come out, and he bounds Satan in it. So an angel up in heaven has more
▶ 11:38 power than the king of the bottomless pit. Hallelujah. And that’s the kingdom we’re serving, the kingdom of God, the kingdom of light, the kingdom of righteousness is more powerful than the kingdom of darkness. Hallelujah. So the conclusion of the whole matter is the bottomless pit is a place of imprisonment and torment for powers of darkness, and it is a source of spiritual evil. Now, let’s take a look
Scripture in this part
Romans 10:7 (NKJV)
or, “ ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’ ” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).
— Romans 10:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 9:47Deuteronomy 30:12-13 (NKJV)
It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend into heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’
— Deuteronomy 30:12-13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:15 (quoted; reference not named in the message)Revelation 9:11 (NKJV)
And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.
— Revelation 9:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:31Do angels or Satan have wings?
Short answer: He says “angels don’t have wings, and neither does Satan have wings.” He says seraphim and cherubim have wings but not angels, that we put angels with wings on trees because “it’s handed down to us,” and “Angels are spirits, they don’t need wings to fly.”
▶ 12:19 again at this Revelations 20. Here I got a picture again of Satan being thrown into the bottomless pit. I love these renditions of artists, they put wings on everybody, and angels don’t have wings, and neither does Satan have wings. We know he has a tail, and we know that he’s described as seven heads and ten horns, but never, heard, does Satan have wings, nor does an angel have wings. Seraphim have wings, cherubim have wings, but not angels. Are you there? I just keep bringing that out because, you know, we put angels with wings on our Christmas trees, and we just do things because it’s handed down to us, and we don’t even think about what is the real source here. Angels are spirits, they don’t need wings to fly, they just fly by the word of God.
What problem does he see in taking Revelation 20 literally?
Short answer: He rereads Revelation 20:1–3 and says that if we take it literally, “Satan is not, never been bound, and never will be bound until this time, so he has free reign in the earth.”
▶ 13:17 Hallelujah. Uh, actually they don’t fly, they just transport themselves, they move by the word of God. Again, “An angel having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand, laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, and he cast him into the bottomless pit, shut him up and put a seal on him, that he should not deceive the nations anymore till the thousand years be fulfilled, and after that he must be loosed a little season.” Now, the problem we got here is this: if we take this scripture literally, see, that means Satan is not, never been bound, and never will be bound until this time, so he has free reign in the earth. Are you there? If we take this scripture
Scripture in this part
Revelation 20:1-3 (NKJV)
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
— Revelation 20:1-3 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 13:28What do 1 Chronicles 21:1 and 2 Samuel 24:1 show about Satan being bound and loosed?
Short answer: He says Satan “has been bound and loosed, and bound and loosed since the beginning.” He puts 1 Chronicles 21:1 (Satan moved David to number Israel) beside 2 Samuel 24:1 (the Lord’s anger) and says this is “God needing to deal with Israel because of their sins,” with Satan as God’s “enforcer, because God can’t do evil.”
▶ 14:17 literally. But when we go to the Scriptures, we’re going to find that Satan has been bound and loosed before. Okay, we’re going to tell you in the Scriptures that Satan not only is going to be bound and loosed in that generation of the end, but he has been bound and loosed, and bound and loosed since the beginning. Are you ready? 1 Chronicles 21:1, “Satan stood up against Israel and provoked David to number Israel,” and we know that when they did it, they didn’t do it according to the law and take the census taxes, so the plague came. Okay, and who stirred up David to do it? Satan. Okay, now look at this nice little
▶ 15:14 clear expansion of this verse, same story, same incident, 2 Samuel 24:1, “The Lord’s anger was kindled against,” who? Israel, ‘cause they were living bad, they were sinning. You see, a lot of people don’t think God is involved in people’s lives today, but he is. And you young people, you can rest assured, if you choose the road of wrong, God’s going to get you, bad things are going to come in your life. Why? ‘Cause he wants you to repent, turn, and live and do right. And so we justify and say, “Well, there is no God, there’s no power, it’s a bunch of bull.” Well, you’ll find out, like those before you, that big problems are going to come in your life. All right. And so he moved David to number Israel in Judah. And so when we mix the two scriptures together, what we have is God needing to deal with Israel because of their sins, and God can’t do
▶ 16:24 evil. There’s certain things God cannot do, and they’re all good. So he gets Satan, he releases Satan, who was bound to not hurt Israel before, now he releases Satan to go and what? Move David to number Israel, so that a plague can come and bring discipline to them. And Satan, of course, is the source of the plague. Are you there? Hallelujah. See, Satan is God’s, uh, what do you call it, enforcer, because God can’t do evil. See,
Scripture in this part
1 Chronicles 21:1 (NKJV)
Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.
— 1 Chronicles 21:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 14:472 Samuel 24:1 (NKJV)
Again the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.”
— 2 Samuel 24:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:21What does Job show about Satan needing God’s permission?
Short answer: He says in Job that Satan could not touch Job because God had a hedge, and “Satan cannot do this till God gave permission.” He says God “will never let Satan or anything tempt you above what you can endure,” and “He doesn’t always remove it, but he empowers me to handle it.”
▶ 17:09 hallelujah. So he was bound, and then what? Loosed, and then he’s bound again. He can’t touch Israel anymore after that until God, what? Gives him permission. Satan cannot do this till God gave permission, and here we have the binding and the loosening of Satan to deceive. Let’s go to Job. The Lord said to Job, Satan comes up before God up in heaven, and, and God says, “Where you been, Satan?” He said, “I’ve been walking to and fro throughout the earth, just trying to find somebody like you that I can deceive.” And then God says, “What if you consider Job? He’s righteous, he’s mature, he’s upright, he won’t change his faith in me no matter what happens.” And Job said, said, “Oh yeah, but you got a hedge around about him, nobody can touch him, but you let me touch him.” Was he bound? Was Satan bound? Yes. Why? God had a hedge, Satan could not touch
▶ 18:10 Job. And God brought up the issue, and I don’t want God doing that up there on me. I’m [unclear] no Job, so, you know, leave me alone here. But see, God will never bring, the Bible says he will never bring any temptation that you cannot have victory over. That there’s a way of escape that you can bear up under. He will never let Satan or anything tempt you above what you can endure. If you fall, it was your decision, because you had the power to what? Bear up under it. Hallelujah. So I’m not worried about tomorrow, and I’m not worried about temptations and all that, because God empowers me to get through them. He doesn’t always remove it, but he empowers me to handle it.
▶ 19:05 Amen. So then Satan goes and he touches his children, kills his children, took his finances, took his wealth, and Job still wouldn’t do anything. Then Satan comes back and says, “Well, touch his body personally,” and, see, Satan could not touch his body personally until God says you can. And then he plagued him with what some people think was elephantiasis, these boils where the skin gets real tough and real thick and just very painful and ugly, and uh, still Job would not denounce God. Hallelujah. So Satan was what? Bound, and he was what? Loosed. Hallelujah. Luke 10, verse 18, we’re going to show you examples of
Scripture in this part
Job 1:6-12 (NKJV)
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. And the LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?” So Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.” Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?” So Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear God for nothing? Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!” And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power; only do not lay a hand on his person.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.
— Job 1:6-12 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 17:29Job 2:4-7 (NKJV)
So Satan answered the LORD and said, “Skin for skin! Yes, all that a man has he will give for his life. But stretch out Your hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will surely curse You to Your face!” And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand, but spare his life.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD, and struck Job with painful boils from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head.
— Job 2:4-7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 19:211 Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV)
No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
— 1 Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 18:27 (quoted; reference not named in the message)What does Luke 10:18 teach about Satan’s fall and our authority?
Short answer: He reads “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven” and says it happened “when these apostles went out and used the power of his word.” He says this is the first record that the apostles, and all believers, have authority over Satan.
▶ 19:59 Satan being cast out of heaven. “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” See, the apostles went out and they preached the gospel, and they healed the sick, demons were cast out, people were saved, and they came back reporting to Jesus, and Jesus said, “I saw Satan as lightning fall from heaven” when, when these apostles went out and used the power of his word. “I give you power to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy.” This is our first record that not only did the apostles have authority over Satan, but all of us believers have authority over
Scripture in this part
Luke 10:18-19 (NKJV)
And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
— Luke 10:18-19 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 19:52When does he say Satan was judged and cast out of the earth?
Short answer: He cites Revelation 12:7 and John 12:31, and says Satan was judged “when Jesus died on the cross.” He says “Satan was loose, now he’s bound,” that “You are a conqueror in the mess,” and that Satan “can do nothing without the big guy’s permission.”
▶ 20:54 Satan. Hallelujah. It’s important for you to know this. See, so not only was he cast out, he was cast out by the preaching of God’s word from believers. Revelations 12:7, “War broke out in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the dragon and his angels, that old great serpent, the great dragon, the serpent, the Devil.” Satan was cast out of heaven to the earth, and so, see, we have another, before the end of the world, when we, in, in Revelations 20, we have an account that Satan’s been cast down before. Amen. From heaven. John 12:31, we’re going to show you Scriptures where he was cast out of the earth. Okay, cast down from heaven to, to earth, now he’s cast out of the earth. “Now is the judgment of this world, now shall the prince of this world be cast out, and if I be lifted up from the earth I will draw all men to,” who? Me. So when was Satan judged and cast out of the earth? When Jesus died on the cross, when he was lifted up to draw all men to him, he cast the prince of this world
▶ 22:24 out. See, Satan was loose, now he’s bound. Are you there? See, it’s important for you to know that these things have been going on through the Bible. It’s very important, because this gives you the knowledge to live powerfully for Jesus Christ right now on earth. You’re not waiting for some, you know, magical thing at the end of the world to get you out of this mess. You are a conqueror in the mess. That’s right. That’s how powerful the blood, the cross, is. Again, in John 16:1, talking about the Holy Spirit that was going to come and convict us of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment, and he explains them. When he comes, to the judgment, he says, “of judgment because the prince of this world is” what? Judged. He sentenced, and we found in the Scripture before what was his sentence: he was cast out of the earth, so he couldn’t deceive
▶ 23:34 people. You say, “Well, you’re in trouble, because he’s still doing, well...” We’ll get there, we’ll get there. Remember, he’s been bound and loosed all throughout the Bible. Hallelujah. He can do nothing without the big guy’s permission.
Scripture in this part
Revelation 12:7-9 (NKJV)
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
— Revelation 12:7-9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:07John 12:31-32 (NKJV)
Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.”
— John 12:31-32 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:49John 16:8-11 (NKJV)
And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
— John 16:8-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 23:06More questions this message answers
Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.
What does he say the sword out of Jesus’s mouth is?
He says “the sword that came out of Jesus’s mouth was what? The word of God.”
Scripture (NKJV)Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
— Revelation 19:15 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 3:07
Why does he say God does not chain Satan with natural things?
He says “God doesn’t use natural things to chain, he just uses his word. When he speaks, you can’t move.” The chain is given “so we understand in the natural, uh, in the spiritual what happens.”
What does he say darkness is?
He says “darkness is the absence of light. There is no thing, such thing as darkness,” and “Light is its own character.”
What does he say about real photos of black holes?
He says “when they really show a real photo of a black hole, there’s no black hole at all, there’s actually light there.”
What does he say happened to the demons in Luke 8?
He says Jesus put them in a herd of pigs and “the pigs went nuts and ran down the cliff.” He says the demons asked not to be cast into the bottomless pit.
Scripture (NKJV)And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.
— Luke 8:31 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:11
Who does he say is the king of the bottomless pit?
He says the angel king called Apollyon, or Destroyer, “is Satan himself, he’s the king of the bottomless pit.”
Scripture (NKJV)And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.
— Revelation 9:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:31
Why does he say people put wings on angels?
He says “we put angels with wings on our Christmas trees, and we just do things because it’s handed down to us, and we don’t even think about what is the real source here.”
Why does he say God let Satan move David to number Israel?
He says it was “God needing to deal with Israel because of their sins,” and that God “wants you to repent, turn, and live and do right.”
Scripture (NKJV)Again the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.”
— 2 Samuel 24:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:21
Does he say God will let Satan tempt me beyond what I can bear?
No. He says “He will never let Satan or anything tempt you above what you can endure. If you fall, it was your decision.”
Scripture (NKJV)No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
— 1 Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 18:27
What does he say happened to Job’s body?
He says “Satan could not touch his body personally until God says you can,” and that “still Job would not denounce God.”
Scripture (NKJV)So Satan answered the LORD and said, “Skin for skin! Yes, all that a man has he will give for his life. But stretch out Your hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will surely curse You to Your face!” And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand, but spare his life.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD, and struck Job with painful boils from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head.
— Job 2:4-7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 19:21
Does he say we have to wait for the end of the world to be free?
No. He says “You’re not waiting for some, you know, magical thing at the end of the world to get you out of this mess. You are a conqueror in the mess.”
What does he say the Holy Spirit convicts of?
He says the Holy Spirit would “convict us of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment,” and the judgment is “because the prince of this world is” judged.
Scripture (NKJV)And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
— John 16:8-11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 23:06
About this transcript
This transcript comes from YouTube’s automatic English captions, which supply the timing and the words. Punctuation, capitalization and paragraphing were added by hand, and obvious caption errors were corrected; his wording was not rewritten. “[unclear]” marks a word or name that was not clear. Editor notes: he says “Revelations” for the book of Revelation and the captions give “Revelations 9911,” which is Revelation 9:11. He cites “John 16:1” for the Holy Spirit convicting of sin, righteousness and judgment; those words are in John 16:8–11, which is shown. He uses King James wording (“bottomless pit,” “lightning fall from heaven”) where the NKJV reads “abyss” in Luke 8:31 and Romans 10:7; his words are unchanged. He says “Joel” was captioned for Job once; this is shown as Job. He makes claims about science (relativity, gravity, black holes) and about end-time doctrine; these are his words, not verified by this site. “[Unclear]” marks three spots in his story about a dam outlet (about 3:39–4:30) and one near the Job section (about 18:10). Select any time to jump to that moment on YouTube.
