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Does One's Faith Justify One's Immorality?: full transcript and answers
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Pastor David G. Kincer asks whether any faith can justify immorality that hurts self or others. After defining faith from the dictionary and Hebrews 11 / Romans 4 / John 8 / James 2, he surveys humanist, evolutionist, homosexual, liberal and religionist groups that treat some harm as moral if consensual, then details humanism’s requirements (reject Jesus, accept evolution-based morals) and consequences (STDs, abuse, forced compliance). He concludes one’s faith does not justify harmful lifestyles and challenges humanists to join Bible morality and Americans to vote Bible-morality candidates—not party labels.
What is faith in the English dictionary?
Short answer: Belief or trust, a religion, trust in God, strongly held principles, and loyalty/allegiance—summed as belief in something, someone or principles with allegiance to it.
▶ 0:01 Okay we appreciate you joining us again in another session of clarity on crucial. Choices in this session today we’re going to look at the question does a person’s faith justify their immorality does a person’s faith justify their behavior that hurts themselves and hurt others first let’s go into the dictionary English dictionary definition of faith number one it’s a belief or trust in something number two a religion or religious group number three a trust in God a faith in God number four a set of strongly held beliefs or principles and number five loyalty and allegiance to something or someone or those principles summing it up faith is belief in something someone or principles with allegiance and loyalty to it now the Bible definition of faith is a little broader first the word in the greek is to believe trust and be.
What is Bible faith according to Hebrews 11 and related texts?
Short answer: Greek: believe, trust, be persuaded and loyal. Hebrews 11:1: assurance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen. Faith in Christ’s death, burial and resurrection for forgiveness (1 Corinthians 15:14; Romans 4:5).
▶ 1:19 Persuaded and be loyal to what you’re believing trusting in and persuaded of. But the Bible goes on and explains faith more clearly Hebrews 11:1 faith is the substance the assurance of things hoped for and the evidence or proof of things not seen we haven’t seen creation but because the Bible says God created the earth in six days and we know God we believe that it happened we didn’t see Christ create the earth born of a virgin die on the cross and rise again but through knowing Christ we believe and he goes on to talk about spirits eternal life heaven eternal judgment and so forth 1 Corinthians 15:14 if Christ be not risen our preaching is in vain and your faith is vain and you’re still in your sins so he’s saying that your faith in the Bible is faith in Jesus Christ dying rising again for the cleansing forgiveness and deliverance of sin roman 4:5 he that believes on Jesus who justifies the ungodly his faith is accounted for righteousness again we have an expansion of what faith in the Bible is we are righteous because of our faith in his death bual and resurrection and us repenting and confessing our sin
Scripture in this part
Hebrews 11:1 (NKJV)
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
— Hebrews 11:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:251 Corinthians 15:14 (NKJV)
And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty.
— 1 Corinthians 15:14 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:20Romans 4:5 (NKJV)
But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,
— Romans 4:5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:35Does faith without works justify harm?
Short answer: John 8:31: continue in His word. James 2:20: faith without works is dead. Matthew 5:16: good works seen glorify the Father. Faith cannot justify harming the innocent.
▶ 2:49 John 8:31 Jesus said to the Jews which believed who had faith in him if you continue in my word you’re truly my disciples so faith causes us to follow in God’s word and obey his word to sum it up faith in the Bible is a belief trust persuasion and loyalty to Jesus Christ his word of truth including spirits eternal life creation good works and the coming judgment. James 2:20 says faith without works is dead now what kind of works are dead Matthew 5:6 says let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your father which is in heaven faith doesn’t honor God good works does faith can’t be seen good works can be.
Scripture in this part
John 8:31 (NKJV)
Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
— John 8:31 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:49James 2:20 (NKJV)
But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
— James 2:20 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:20Matthew 5:16 (NKJV)
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
— Matthew 5:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:30What faith groups does he name in America?
Short answer: Humanists (freethinkers, atheists, agnostics, communists), evolutionists, homosexuals, liberals/progressives, religionists who add or take from the word, conservatives for family/morals/Constitution, and the Bible-and-Jesus group.
▶ 3:45 Seen and our faith cannot justify doing harm to innocent people now let’s take a look at the different faith groups in America and throughout the world the humanist which includes freethinkers atheist agnostics and communists and then there’s the evolutionist and then there’s the homosexuals and then there is the liberals who are also the same as the progressives and then there’s the religionist religionists are people that add to the word or take away from the word with their own human doctrine like Muslims Hindus uh offshoots of Christianity. And then you have the conservative group which has a strong faith in the.
What immorality do many of those groups call moral?
Short answer: He says they mostly agree some immorality is moral—hurting yourself if not others, or hurting others if they consent (immoral sex, drugs, brainwashing, verbal abuse)—but none can justify harming the innocent in the name of faith.
▶ 4:38 family, morals, constitution of America and then you have Bible and the Jesus group who follow the Bible and Jesus totally now these prominent faith groups in the bracket of humanist evolutionist homosexuals, liberals and religionists mostly believe the same way that some acts of morality of I’m sorry some acts of immorality is moral for example it’s okay to hurt yourself if you’re not hurting. Others I can get in my room cut myself do things to myself get so drunk that I pass out but I’m not hurting others.
What three kinds of people does he describe?
Short answer: Good moral people, bad people who hurt self or others, and the undecided—each side trying to convert the others to their ideology.
▶ 5:30 Or it’s okay to hurt others if they consent to the immoral act such as immoral sex drugs the brainwashing of the mind verbal abuse verbal violence and so forth now these groups believe in their principles to live by with allegiance to them and loyalty to to their faith but I submit to you that none of these groups can justify harming the innocent people in the name of their faith now remember there’s three kinds of people in this world there is good moral people there is bad people that have no problem doing things that hurt themselves or hurt others and then there’s the undecided group they haven’t really decided which way they’re going to go yet the good moral people is trying to convert the bad and the undecided but the bad people the harmful people are also trying to convert to their faith the good and the.
Why investigate different faiths’ requirements and consequences?
Short answer: 1 Corinthians 14:9: many kinds of voices, none without significance—requirements, purpose and consequences. Having faith is no excuse to destroy family, community and work; add moral excellence to faith (2 Peter).
▶ 6:50 Undecided everybody’s out to win you to their ideology. the world’s many faiths insist. That they are. Right they insist on acceptance they insist on respect and their aim is to get you to follow their faith. 1 Corinthians 14:9. Said shed some good light on this unless you speak words easy to understand how will it be known what is spoken there are many kinds of voices in the world many kinds of opinions many kinds of philosophies many kinds of faith and none of them is without significance 1 Corinthians 14:9 says and that word significant.
▶ 7:49 Incorporates they have. Requirements they have purpose and they have consequences. Which is significant to us and important to us so we need to investigate different faith to find out what their requirements are what is their goal what is their purpose and what are the consequences if I follow that faith are they good or are they bad now I want to remind you these are all groups that use faith to promote their philosophies in the world but we found in the scriptures that we’ve got to add to our faith and having faith in something is no excuse to destroy the family destroy the community and affect the work world in America we got to add moral excellence knowledge of moral excellence.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 14:9 (NKJV)
So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.
— 1 Corinthians 14:9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:002 Peter 1:5-6 (NKJV)
But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness,
— 2 Peter 1:5-6 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:40 (quoted; reference not named in the message)What are humanism’s requirements as he reads them?
Short answer: Reject Jesus, prayer, Bible, eternal damnation, miracles; invent church-state separation and “Bible is a book of faith” to silence Bible morality; accept unprovable evolution and scientific method that green-lights abortion, euthanasia, drugs and same-sex marriage.
▶ 9:04 Self-control patience we’re supposed to add to our faith so we do not harm innocent people and the reason we add is because we didn’t have it now what are the requirements of humanism. you’re required to reject Jesus this is from the humanist manifesto prayer and the Bible eternal damnation no such thing you just die and go to the grave miracles there’s no supernatural work in the earth and none of these are a solution for any of mankind’s problem or pain so they come up with the separation of church and state philosophy which is not in the constitution to silence the Bible and Jesus and their followers and Bible morality they also invented the statement that the Bible is a book of faith when the Bible never says it’s a book of faith the Bible says it’s a book of truth but using these two things they.
▶ 10:11 Have separated the church and the Bible and Jesus Christ from society humanist requirements is to accept unprovable evolution and the scientific method to build social and moral values so what they’re saying is they use the scientific method to come to the conclusion that abortion was okay euthanasia is okay legalizing drugs is okay same-sex marriage and lifestyle is okay and there is no Jesus and no Bible they use that. And again it affects the faith affects the family the community and where we work.
What goal for America does he attribute to humanism?
Short answer: Change America to a socialist government, limited-profit economy and equalized wages, reconstruct churches by legislation—though Jesus builds His church by the Spirit’s pattern, and such laws terrorize moral people against conscience.
▶ 11:12 So how do we judge which faith to follow a closer look at humanism and liberals are included in this part they want to change America to a socialist government right the Humanist Manifesto and they want a limited-profit economy and they want to reduce poverty by equalizing wages they feel that capitalism free enterprise is just a profit making economy idea that causes poor people to be poor and the rich to get richer and so they want to bring everybody into a zone where everybody makes a little bit and somebody makes a little bit more but nobody gets rich that is their goal is to change the republic of America from a free.
▶ 12:19 Enterprise economic system to a socialist government and economic system they also said in their manifesto they want to change the churches we got to reconstruct the churches and their methods and their moral standards through legislation but what they fail to see is Jesus said I will build my church he’s got to build it the Bible says unless the Lord Jesus build the house we labor in vain that build it and the Bible says that the house has to be built by the pattern shown by the spirit of God no one has a right to design the church around human thinking it’s his church and we have to have the church structured in his way these laws force or terrorize innocent moral people who harm no one to act against their conscience and if they don’t act against their conscience they will be punished by fines jails or.
Scripture in this part
Psalm 127:1 (NKJV)
Unless the LORD builds the house, They labor in vain who build it; Unless the LORD guards the city, The watchman stays awake in vain.
— Psalm 127:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 13:00 (quoted; reference not named in the message)What consequences of humanist “faith” does he cite?
Short answer: “Short of harming others” lifestyles vs stalled inventive drive under socialism (Russia/China/Denmark figures he gives); force and terror against moral conscience; Bible censored; evolution and homosexuality forced in schools; tax-exemption threats.
▶ 13:31 Whatever now what are the consequences of humanism’s faith quote unquote short of harming others see they believe in lifestyles every lifestyle as long as it doesn’t hurt others everybody should have the freedom to exercise their lifestyle. Capitalism inventive drive is stalled capitalism puts a drive in you to create the ballpoint pen that separated the old messy ink thing and then somebody else saw that ballpoint pen and improved it and as things were improved we got ballpoint pens today that work great. But. Socialists and their kind of economy prevents that because you don’t make any money the money just goes to everybody if you invent something close to equal pay the diligence support the lazy Russia has a 550 average square foot home and a $1,200 a month wage China has 646 average square foot home to live in and a $656 a month wage Denmark has a 75% total tax and they have a state church that you got to pay taxes too I myself will choose.
▶ 14:57 Capitalism humanist law. Force again terror the intimidation the coercion of innocent people who harm no one to act against their own moral values or they will be punished the Bible is censored evolution and homosexuality is forced on Christian students in public schools churches are threatened to lose their tax exemption if they preach hate quote unquote messages or Bible sins or they preach on.
What STD and abuse figures does he cite since 1960?
Short answer: From 2 to 30+ STDs; 50% of Americans with one vs under 2% in 1960; four incurable, eight that kill; plus abuse, unwed births, street youth, alcohol and drug deaths from unrestrained lifestyles.
▶ 15:37 Politics there’s more than 30 sexually transmitted diseases in America today there used to be in 1960 only two. 50% of Americans have one of these 30 sexual sexually transmitted diseases today whereas less than 2% in 1960 had a sexually transmitted disease four of these diseases are uncurable and eight of them kill now the consequences of humanism is starting to look really bad and really great and terrifying preventable deaths and physical harm from unrestrained lifestyles such as homosexuality swingers pedophilia intoxication tobacco child abusers and abortion 5 million kids in America America are abused every year 1,800 and some are murdered 460,000 children are sexually abused in America every year and 48% of American children now are born to unwed mothers which creates school dropouts juvenile crime drugs drinking and that debauchery of life there’s 1.7 million youth on the street in America today 880,000 die every year from alcohol-related deaths 177,000 from drug-related deaths businesses
What hypocrisy on force versus helmets and guns does he claim?
Short answer: Businesses closed for not photographing a gay wedding, ACA forcing birth control/abortion, arrests for preaching, Christian education closed—while helmets, seatbelts and guns are regulated to save lives but homosexual, alcohol and drug lifestyles that kill millions are not illegal.
▶ 17:08 are closed for not photographing a gay wedding the affordable care act forces birth control and abortion on people who don’t even believe in it people are arrested for preaching against homosexuality as a sin in the Bible and church have been closed for having a Christian education. it’s illegal to wear not wear a helmet—saves 1,800 lives a year to not wear seat belts which they say saves 12,000 lives a year and it’s illegal to have guns or 8,000 a year but it’s not illegal to be homosexual an alcoholic a drug abuser which is harming and killing millions in America. After all these things this destruction then the humanists want to treat the harm with medical control instead of preventing the harm by promoting.
▶ 18:13 Self-control and preventative maintenance is always better than corrective. Maintenance humanist rulers such as Stalin kill 50 million people innocent people mayo of China 30 and more millions of people. Humanists are destroying and hurting a lot of innocent people that’s the consequences of humanism so the conclusion is humanist faith should be rejected by moral people on its requirements to reject Jesus the Bible prayer miracles supernatural forces working in the world and we have to accept all lifestyles and that short of harming others I challenge the humanist do you really believe that because I just gave you facts where your faith is harming and killing thousands and and and harming millions of people and costing our nation billions of dollars in repair.
▶ 19:27 Cost we should reject reject humanist faith because of its purpose they want to change capitalism which is a motivating force and individuals to work and achieve and accomplish something they want to change the church and its methods and morals through law thirdly we need to reject the humanist faith from the consequences that we just presented you. The thousands of preventable deaths the millions of pain physically emotionally and mentally that people experience and go through when they behave an immoral lifestyle and the high medical costs so humanist I challenge you to follow your short of harming other.
Does one’s faith justify an immoral lifestyle?
Short answer: No—when purpose and consequences harm self and others, including taxpayer costs. Bible morality has indisputable results saving from preventable death and harm. He challenges humanists to back “short of harming others” by joining Bible morality.
▶ 20:24 Statements and agree with Bible morality. United, humanists, we can prevent deaths harm and medical costs and the destruction of the American family that’s going on today if you really believe humanist that lifestyles are free to be lived short of harming others then I challenge you to stand up and back that statement. Up and join Bible morality the conclusion one’s faith does not justify their immoral lifestyle when that lifestyle’s purpose and consequences harm themselves and harm others it doesn’t.
▶ 21:24 Justify when that lifestyle causes preventable deaths and harm to themselves and harms to others you see when you harm yourself us taxpayers wind up paying the cost of your error it does hurt us in the end I submit to you that Bible morality may be unpopular in America but Bible morality has indisputable results: saves people from preventable deaths and harm if they would just follow Bible morality. Now I also challenge us to not allow humanists to take prayer Jesus the Bible and its indisputable morals from us through legislative force terrorizing coercing us intimidating us to go against our.
How should Americans vote, in his challenge?
Short answer: Not as slaves of Democrat or Republican ideology, but for Bible-morality candidates, policies and laws—and for people who stand up and do right, not only say they are right.
▶ 22:30 Conscience don’t allow that and in America we don’t have to vote democrat we don’t have to vote republican they have they have tricked our brain into thinking democrat or republican but I submit to you that when we vote in America we should not vote democrat or republican but we should vote for Bible morality candidates, Bible morality policies and Bible morality laws. that’s what we should vote for that’s what we should stand up for and that’s what we should speak up about and don’t let the democrat or republican party make us a slave of their ideology their ideas their philosophies when it violates.
▶ 23:28 Bible morals that end up hurting a lot of people has your pastor priest church group or politician fought for right or just says they are. Right it’s one thing to say you’re right but the person who stands up and speaks up for right and does right they are the ones that will change America change the family and change the individual from a bad moral behavior to a good one.
More questions this message answers
Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.
What is Hebrews 11:1’s definition of faith?
Faith is the substance/assurance of things hoped for and the evidence/proof of things not seen.
Scripture (NKJV)Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
— Hebrews 11:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:25
When is faith vain, per 1 Corinthians 15?
If Christ be not risen, preaching and faith are vain and you are still in your sins.
Scripture (NKJV)And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty.
— 1 Corinthians 15:14 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:20
What makes someone truly Jesus’ disciple?
If you continue in His word—faith causes following and obeying.
Scripture (NKJV)Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
— John 8:31 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 2:49
Who are “religionists” in his list?
People who add to or take away from the word with human doctrine—Muslims, Hindus, offshoots of Christianity.
Is harm OK if the other person consents?
Those groups say yes for immoral sex, drugs, brainwashing and verbal abuse; he says none can justify harming the innocent.
Why add to your faith?
Because having faith is no excuse to destroy family and community; add moral excellence, knowledge, self-control and patience so you do not harm the innocent—you didn’t have it when you believed.
Scripture (NKJV)But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness,
— 2 Peter 1:5-6 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 8:40
Is the Bible a book of faith or of truth, in his view?
He says the Bible never says it’s a book of faith; it says it’s a book of truth—humanists invented the faith label to silence it.
Who builds the church?
Jesus said He will build His church; unless the Lord builds the house, laborers build in vain—no one may redesign it around human thinking.
Scripture (NKJV)Unless the LORD builds the house, They labor in vain who build it; Unless the LORD guards the city, The watchman stays awake in vain.
— Psalm 127:1 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 13:00
What death tolls does he attribute to humanist rulers?
Stalin about 50 million; Mao of China 30 and more millions.
Should you vote Democrat or Republican?
He says don’t be tricked into party slavery; vote Bible-morality candidates, policies and laws.
About this transcript
This transcript comes from YouTube’s automatic English captions, which supply the timing and the words. Punctuation, capitalization and paragraphing were added by hand, and obvious caption errors were corrected; his wording was not rewritten. “[unclear]” marks a word or name that was not clear. HIGHLY SENSITIVE/political: humanists/freethinkers/atheists/communists/homosexuals/liberals/religionists; abortion, euthanasia, drugs, same-sex marriage; capitalism vs socialism; Russia/China/Denmark wage-home figures; Stalin 50M, Mao 30M+; STD surge since 1960; gay wedding photography, ACA, preaching arrests; vote neither D nor R but Bible morality. Kept as spoken. Caption: iary→dictionary; causes es→causes; ual→homosexuals (in list); ballpoint pin→pen; ecomony→economy; mayo→Mao; buil→build; fault for→fought for (likely). Stats unverified. Select any time to jump to that moment on YouTube.
