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Division Concluded Part 1: full transcript and answers
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In “Division Concluded Part 1,” Pastor David G. Kincer finishes the section of 1 Corinthians (chapter 4) where Paul deals with division. He contrasts how the Corinthians saw themselves with how real ministers lived, and lists Paul’s sufferings. Paul answers insults with good words, works with his own hands and asks for unity even when picked on. He says Paul wants fathers rather than mere talkers, and that the goal of the gospel is Christ formed in you.
What was wrong in the Corinthian church?
Short answer: He says Paul spent the first four chapters of the letter on division, warning the Corinthians about their proud, arrogant thinking. They were saying “I’m of Paul, I’m of Apollos, I’m of Peter,” and only one fourth had it right: “we’re of Jesus.” He adds that they were quarreling, jealous, carnal, and still “on the milk” after several years.
▶ 0:00 This is the words of Paul the Apostle. He got saved about five years after Christ died on the cross and ascended and he started preaching in Corinth in about 52 A.D. and wrote the letters in about 57. So, we are picking it up in chapter four. The first four chapters are focusing on division and he’s still addressing divisional members of the Corinthian church. He continues to warn them or alert them about their proud, arrogant thinking.
▶ 0:46 Remember, they were saying, “I’m of Paul, I’m of Apollos, I’m of Peter,” and one fourth said, “We’re none of those guys, we’re of Jesus.” One fourth of the people had it right. Okay, three fourths had it wrong. And remember, he got them for quarreling, being splitting and dividing into groups, being jealous of one another, thinking like a natural man instead of a spiritual man, being carnal, being babies and on the milk. After these several years, he said, you’re still on milk. You should be taking meat. And he says, you judge other ministers and other believers that you do not approve of. That’s what we read in the past three chapters.
Why do Christians stop growing?
Short answer: He says that when we distract from Jesus Christ and the power of the gospel, “the source of growth,” we stop growing. He adds that pride in our own beliefs and gifts crowds out the One who gave them: “if you receive them, what do you got to brag about?”
▶ 1:38 And with motives that elevate your own pride in your beliefs, in your gifts that you receive from Christ. And remember, he said, if you receive them, what do you got to brag about? It’s the one that gave you these things that should be the one you’re praising. Remember all that? And he said, you’re distracting from Jesus Christ and the power of the gospel that gives you growth. And when we distract from the source of growth, how many of you know we stopped growing? Yeah. It’s not the church group. It’s not the minister. It’s Jesus, his gospel and the cross. That’s the power of God that changes our life causes us to grow.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:7 (NKJV)
For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?
— 1 Corinthians 4:7 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:51 (quoted; reference not named in the message)What does “you are full, you are rich, you reign as kings without us” mean?
Short answer: He says Paul is comparing the Corinthians’ opinion of themselves with how real ministers of God lived. In their own minds they were strong and full and had authority, and Paul says he wishes they did, “so we could have that authority with you to rule as kings.”
▶ 2:31 Now, Paul is going to compare them in this verse eight and nine and the following verses. He’s going to compare their evaluation of themselves with real ministers of God. Did you hear that statement? He’s going to compare the two, the real ministers of God and their evaluation of themselves. Peter, Paul, Apollos and Jesus. They were the real ministers. So he says, you are full, you are rich, you reign as kings without us. And I would to God that you did reign, that we might reign with you. He says, in your mind, you are strong, you are full, you know, you don’t have any need. You have authority. He said, I wish you did have that authority. So we could have that authority with you to rule as kings.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:8 (NKJV)
You are already full! You are already rich! You have reigned as kings without us—and indeed I could wish you did reign, that we also might reign with you!
— 1 Corinthians 4:8 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:02Who is greatest in God’s kingdom?
Short answer: He says everybody wants to be “the top dog,” but in the kingdom the one who serves the most is the one who has the authority, and recognition works differently there. Paul says the apostles were put last, “a spectacle” to the whole world, while the Corinthians thought they had it all together.
▶ 3:32 He says, I think that God has set us apostles first or last. See, everybody wants to be first. Everybody’s wanting to be the top dog. In the kingdom, Jesus said, he that is greatest is servant of all, the lowest person. In the kingdom is one that serves the most and they are the one that has the authority. And the recognition works different in the kingdom. He says, us apostles are last. We’re appointed to death, ruin, for we are made a spectacle, a theater to the whole world, to the angels and to men. He says, but not you guys. You think you are full, you know, of food, you don’t need anything materially, you don’t need anything spiritually, you know, you’re rich, you don’t need anything materially, you don’t need anything spiritually. You guys in your mind, you got it together and us apostles are all wrong or our ministers are all wrong.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:9 (NKJV)
For I think that God has displayed us, the apostles, last, as men condemned to death; for we have been made a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men.
— 1 Corinthians 4:9 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:32Is following Jesus foolish?
Short answer: He says the world thinks of real ministers as fools with no common sense, such as Peter and John, who gave up a good fishing business to preach the gospel. Paul says “we are fools for Christ’s sake,” thought of that way “because we choose to put Christ first.” He calls that the mentality of people who divide.
▶ 4:44 Verse 10, he says, you think of us and so does the world as fools, as foolish people with no common sense. You know, Peter and John gave up a good fishing business to go and preach the gospel. Well, that’s crazy. There’s no common sense. You do that to preach the gospel. You take a, you stop a good paying job like some have here in the church and take a low paying job at the church because you got a compassion for people to reach them with the gospel. You are an idiot. Yeah, that’s no common sense. See, that’s the way divisors, divisionary people think they got the answers and real ministers are just idiots.
▶ 5:47 And we are fools for Christ’s sake. We are thought of as fools because we choose to put Christ first and the things that he puts first first. He says, you look at us as weak, no great achievers. Yeah, we’re not out there making money. Yeah, we’re not out there, you know, being a hero in sports or a hero in the music industry or, you know, all this. You say we’re not achievers. Is this good? Yeah. And that’s the mentality of people that divide. We got to put down the real people.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:10 (NKJV)
We are fools for Christ’s sake, but you are wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are distinguished, but we are dishonored!
— 1 Corinthians 4:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:47How much did Paul suffer for the gospel?
Short answer: He lists what Paul went through: hunger, thirst, cold, beatings, prison, a stoning, three shipwrecks and dangers from bandits and false brethren. On top of it all, Paul says, “I face daily the pressures of my concern for the churches.”
▶ 6:29 He says, we’re despised. We’re looked down on without any honor. We get no respect. We hunger, we thirst, we are, we, we, we are naked. We go without clothing. We’re cold because we don’t have clothing to warm us. We’re beaten. And in Second Corinthians 11:23 through 28, he says. Are they servants of Christ, ministers of Christ? He says, I am more and I feel like an idiot talking like this, but I work harder. I’ve been in prison more frequently. I’ve been flogged or beaten more severely. I’ve been exposed to death again and again. Five times the Jews beat me. Three times I was beaten with rods.
▶ 7:21 Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked. I spent a day and a night in the sea. I have been constantly on the move. I’ve been in dangers from rivers, from bandits, from my own countrymen, from the Gentiles, from in the city, in the country, in the sea, and false brethren. I have labored and toiled and have gone without sleep. I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food. I have been cold and naked. And besides all of this natural stuff, I face daily the pressures of my concern for the churches.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:11 (NKJV)
To the present hour we both hunger and thirst, and we are poorly clothed, and beaten, and homeless.
— 1 Corinthians 4:11 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 6:382 Corinthians 11:23-28 (NKJV)
Are they ministers of Christ?—I speak as a fool—I am more: in labors more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequently, in deaths often. From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness— besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches.
— 2 Corinthians 11:23-28 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 6:50How do ministers today compare with New Testament ministers?
Short answer: He says Paul and the apostles were taken to court, jailed and rejected, and did not stay at “the Hilton hotel.” He says some treat a new car and a nice house as the sign a church is successful, but Paul’s saying that “has nothing to do with anything. It’s the power of the gospel that has to do with everything.”
▶ 8:01 Quite a lot different than these TV and radio evangelists, huh? They’re not suffering anything. In fact, they’re living high off God’s people’s money. With a gospel that isn’t changing people’s lives. You see, where do you hear anybody preaching? If you’re really going to be a minister, they’re going to take you to court. They’re going to put you in jail. They’re going to reject you. They’re not going to have anything to do with you. You don’t hear that. You said, “No, man, you be a minister. You’re the man of God.” You know, nothing’s too good for the man of God. But it didn’t happen back there.
▶ 8:41 Are you with me? If we compared ministers today to ministers in the New Testament, it’s a big difference. You know, our pastors today are successful if they got a new car. See, if the congregation buys them a new car, you know, and they got a nice house to live in and nice clothes. You know, that’s a sign that the church is successful. Paul’s saying that has nothing to do with anything. It’s the power of the gospel that has to do with everything. Isn’t this good?
▶ 9:23 And this is Paul talking. This is not your modern day church growth seminar teachers. This is Paul talking. He says, this is the way you look at us because we are experiencing these things. We don’t even have a place to live in. We got to sleep wherever people will give us a room or we have to sleep on the ground. They didn’t stay at the Hilton hotel. Like we hear today. But you’re wise. You think you are intelligent in Christ. You think you’re strong in body and mind. You think you’re honorable.
Should a pastor work with his own hands?
Short answer: He says Paul and the true ministers “labor with our own hands” and use their own money to reach people with the gospel. “If the church can’t support us, we work to keep the gospel moving,” he says, though some churches would object to seeing their pastor dig a ditch or paint a wall.
▶ 10:07 And you put us down. Verse 12. Now he’s saying the facts. Us true ministers. We labor with our own hands. Even above paying our own tithes. We use our money to reach people with the gospel. We don’t stop at tithe. And if the church can’t support us, we work to keep the gospel moving. Isn’t that beautiful?
▶ 10:48 My goodness today, if some of these churches saw their pastor digging a ditch at the church to repair something or painting a wall, they go, what are you doing? That’s for a layman.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:12-13 (NKJV)
And we labor, working with our own hands. Being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we endure; being defamed, we entreat. We have been made as the filth of the world, the offscouring of all things until now.
— 1 Corinthians 4:12-13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:19How should you answer an insult?
Short answer: He says Paul wrote “we are reviled,” and when we’re spoken evil of, “we give good words back.” He calls that the sign of a real believer: when verbally abused, they speak back kindness and goodness. When mistreated, he adds, “we permit it” and “don’t retaliate back.”
▶ 11:07 He says, we are reviled. We’re spoken evil of. And when we’re spoken evil of, we give good words back. Wow. Did you hear that? He says, that’s the sign of a real minister. That’s the sign of a real believer that’s thinking right. Even when they’re spoken evil of and verbally abused, they speak back kindness and goodness.
▶ 11:46 Now I don’t know about you, but this is good stuff. See, this is the power that Paul is talking about, that God used to build the Corinthian church, the power of a moral, living, moral standard lifestyle of living and possessing the characteristics of God. Powerful. He says, we’re persecuted. We’re mistreated. And we permit it. Suffer means we permit it. We allow it. We just keep preaching to them. We just keep speaking the gospel. You know, we don’t retaliate back.
Why do divisive people put other people down?
Short answer: He says that “we always try to build ourselves by putting down somebody else,” and that is what divisionary people and babies do. Paul’s answer to those who defame him is to ask them to “work together for the gospel,” and he says siding with one minister for your own advantage ends up “distracting from Jesus Christ.”
▶ 12:29 We are defamed. Defamation of character. I’ve gone through it several times myself. Nothing they could prove. They just wanted to challenge my character and say things that weren’t true. Defamation of character. We always try to build ourselves by putting down somebody else. He says, that’s what divisionary people do. That’s what babies do. That’s what carnal people do. You have got to come into the spiritual thing of this. We entreat. We encourage these that defame us by saying, come along. Let’s work together for the gospel and the spreading of the kingdom.
▶ 13:21 See, they’re asking for unity even when they are picked on. Has Paul got your attention? Now, is this Christianity? Yeah. This is real Christianity. He says, we’re made as the filth of the world, the offscouring of dirt, casting of dirt off of us like you wash off dirt, of all things, to this day. That’s how you people look at us. And yeah, you’re siding with Paul for your own advantage. You’re siding with Peter for your own advantage. You’re siding for Apollos for your own advantage. But then you in your bad attitude and your bad motives are knocking the other ministers and distracting from Jesus Christ and the power of the gospel.
▶ 14:09 And, church, he’s right. He’s totally right. See, dividers don’t work. They don’t spend their own money above tithes. They probably don’t even tithe to get the gospel out to others. Verse 14, “I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.” I warn you, I’m alerting you that kind of thinking, that kind of pride, that kind of motive, that kind of attitude is not good. He said, and I’m here to warn you, I’m here to alert you.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:14-15 (NKJV)
I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
— 1 Corinthians 4:14-15 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 14:38What makes a real father?
Short answer: He says Paul told the Corinthians they had “10,000 tutors in Christ” who just talk, but not many fathers. A father gives life and is also “a parental guide to bring that child up to maturity,” setting aside the time and labor to raise a child through every stage.
▶ 15:01 While you have 10,000 tutors in Christ, yeah, all you people get together and you tell each other about Jesus and you try to teach each other. He said there’s 10,000 like you, multitudes like you. You just talk. Your motives aren’t right. Your goals aren’t right. You just talk. You use Bible verses and you just talk. You got a lot of these kind of people talking, but you don’t have many fathers.
▶ 15:45 What’s a father? A father is the one that gives life. To a child without the man, the woman’s worthless. The father gives life and the father is also a parental guide to bring that child up to maturity. See, anybody can have kids in the natural, but not anybody sets aside the time and the labor to raise this child up in every stage to be a normal, well -balanced person serving God and asset to the community and providing from their own self when they get an adult.
▶ 16:37 He said, you guys are just talkers. You’re keeping people babies. You’re destroying the church. You need to listen to fathers. Amen. Go to a church because the pastor is going to flatter you. I can’t flatter my kids. I’ve got to be honest with them. This is a world where you got to work and it’s a tough world and it takes discipline and it takes responsibility. It takes an education. It takes a job training in the natural. It takes good hygiene and good eating habits. It takes a lot of things and in the spirit world it’s the same thing. It takes giving time to God, as Stephen said earlier, in prayer and in the Word and changing your life to represent what you read and that presence that comes when you pray. It takes work.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:14-15 (NKJV)
I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
— 1 Corinthians 4:14-15 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 15:01Can the gospel really give you new life?
Short answer: He says Paul wrote “I have begotten you through the gospel.” Fathers give birth, and “the gospel births.” His own opinions don’t bring life, he says, but if you receive the gospel and embrace it, it gives you “life that keeps growing.”
▶ 17:40 Paul’s good, folks. I’ve told you for 40 years, you can’t beat Peter, John and Paul as authors. There is no book that supersedes them. And these other New Testament authors. “I have begotten you through the gospel.” I’ve birthed you. See, Father’s birth, the gospel births. See, my opinions don’t birth. They don’t bring life to you. But the gospel births you. If you will receive it and embrace it, it will give you life that keeps growing.
Are churches stopping new Christians from growing?
Short answer: He compares conception to the start of a Christian life, with the power to “keep growing into something beautiful and something useful.” He says churches can stop that growth “with doctrines and stupid things,” and that we often “just want to make them feel good” when God’s concern is growing.
▶ 18:27 See, when that egg and that sperm come together, that’s just, we call that conception. That’s the beginning of life. But in that beginning, there is the power to just keep growing into something beautiful and something useful. Amen. See, and just like people abort babies today, churches are aborting Christians. We’re killing them. After conception, we’re killing them with doctrines and stupid things.
▶ 19:11 So that they can’t grow anymore. Do you understand that? And the reason we don’t have any sensitivity for the unborn baby is because we don’t have any sensitivity for the Christian. See, Paul said the care of all the churches. We don’t care about people. We just want to make them feel good. Do you feel good about yourself? Are you happy? It’s got nothing to do with feeling good and being happy. It’s got to do with growing. And it’s the gospel, it’s the cross, and it’s Jesus that causes us to grow.
Should you follow a minister, a denomination, or Jesus?
Short answer: He says that when we distract from the gospel, the cross and Jesus by saying “I’m a Methodist person” or “I’m a Catholic person,” we lose what causes growth. It should always be, “I’m a Jesus boy. I’m a Jesus girl. I’m a gospel man.” Paul can say “Be followers of me,” he says, because Paul follows Christ.
▶ 19:47 And when you distract from that and say, well, you know, I’m a Vineyard person. I’m a [unclear] person. I’m a Methodist person. I’m a Catholic person. Listen, you should never talk that way. It should always be, “I’m a Jesus boy. I’m a Jesus girl. I’m a gospel man.”
▶ 20:14 Hallelujah. And then he says, “Be followers of me.” And later, in the same book, he’ll say, “Be followers of me as I follow Christ.” He said, don’t follow one another. Don’t follow these little groups. Follow me. I’m a real minister. I am faithful. I have the mysteries of God. I live it. I speak it. And you can follow me. You can follow my lifestyle. You can follow what I teach that I live the lifestyle. Follow me because I’m following Christ.
Scripture in this part
1 Corinthians 4:16 (NKJV)
Therefore I urge you, imitate me.
— 1 Corinthians 4:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 20:201 Corinthians 11:1 (NKJV)
Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.
— 1 Corinthians 11:1 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 20:27 (quoted; reference not named in the message)What does it mean for Christ to be formed in you?
Short answer: He says the objective of the gospel is “to form Christ in you so that you are a light to the world.” The goal isn’t just to be a believer or a disciple, but to let your faith and discipline bring you to where Christ is formed in you. As a young Christian struggling to live for Christ, he says, that gave him “tremendous hope.”
▶ 20:55 And look at this. “My little children,” Galatians 4:19, “of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you.” So what’s the objective of the gospel? To form Christ in you so that you are a light to the world. A city set on a hill that everybody can see that imitates Jesus Christ.
▶ 21:36 See, the goal isn’t to be a believer. The goal isn’t to be a disciple. The goal is to let your faith and your discipline in Christ bring you to where Christ is formed in you. I don’t know about you, but when I read that verse as a young Christian man, that just really gave me tremendous hope because I was struggling living for Christ. And then that Holy Ghost came along. Wow, that was a big boost in my ability to say no to sin and yes to right. And then these scriptures, God is in me and he’s shaping me into himself, so I could accept where I was at while I was pursuing the goal.
Scripture in this part
Galatians 4:19 (NKJV)
My little children, for whom I labor in birth again until Christ is formed in you,
— Galatians 4:19 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:03More questions this message answers
Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.
Who wrote 1 Corinthians, and when?
He says it is the words of Paul the Apostle, who got saved about five years after Christ died on the cross and ascended. Paul started preaching in Corinth in about 52 A.D. and wrote the letters in about 57.
What are the first four chapters of 1 Corinthians about?
He says the first four chapters focus on division. Paul is still addressing the divisional members of the Corinthian church and continues to warn them about their proud, arrogant thinking.
Why does Paul say the Corinthians were still on milk?
He says that after several years they were still on milk when they should have been taking meat. They were quarreling, splitting into groups, being jealous, and judging other ministers and believers they did not approve of.
Is it right to brag about the gifts you have received?
He says Paul’s point is that if you received your gifts from Christ, “what do you got to brag about?” It is the one who gave them who should be praised.
Scripture (NKJV)For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?
— 1 Corinthians 4:7 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 1:51
What does Paul mean by “fools for Christ’s sake”?
He says it means being thought of as fools because we choose to put Christ first and the things he puts first. He adds that the world calls such people weak and not great achievers, not out making money or being heroes in sports or music.
Scripture (NKJV)We are fools for Christ’s sake, but you are wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are distinguished, but we are dishonored!
— 1 Corinthians 4:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:47
What hardships did Paul list in 2 Corinthians 11?
He reads Paul’s list: more labor, more prison, more beatings, five times by the Jews, three times with rods, once stoned, three times shipwrecked, a day and a night in the sea, and many dangers. Besides all this, he says, Paul faced daily the pressure of his concern for the churches.
Scripture (NKJV)Are they ministers of Christ?—I speak as a fool—I am more: in labors more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequently, in deaths often. From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep; in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness— besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches.
— 2 Corinthians 11:23-28 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 6:50
Is a successful pastor one with a new car and a nice house?
He says that many see a new car, a nice house and nice clothes as a sign a church is successful, but Paul’s saying that has nothing to do with anything. “It’s the power of the gospel that has to do with everything.”
What is defamation of character, and how should you respond?
He describes it as people wanting to challenge your character and say things that weren’t true. He says he has gone through it several times himself, and that Paul’s response was to encourage those who defame, saying “come along. Let’s work together for the gospel.”
Scripture (NKJV)And we labor, working with our own hands. Being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we endure; being defamed, we entreat. We have been made as the filth of the world, the offscouring of all things until now.
— 1 Corinthians 4:12-13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 13:11
Does growing as a Christian take work?
He says it does: he can’t flatter his kids, and in the natural it takes discipline, responsibility, education and job training. In the spirit world it is the same, he says. It takes giving time to God in prayer and in the Word, and changing your life to represent what you read. “It takes work.”
Why does he say no book supersedes Peter, John and Paul?
He says he has told the church for 40 years that you can’t beat Peter, John and Paul as authors. “There is no book that supersedes them.”
Is the goal of church to make people feel good?
He says that is not God’s concern: “It’s got nothing to do with feeling good and being happy. It’s got to do with growing.” He says the gospel, the cross and Jesus are what cause us to grow.
What does Paul mean by “be followers of me”?
He says Paul told them not to follow one another or follow these little groups, but to follow him: “Follow me because I’m following Christ.” Paul is a real minister, he says, who lives and speaks what he teaches.
Scripture (NKJV)Therefore I urge you, imitate me.
— 1 Corinthians 4:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 20:20
Scripture (NKJV)Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.
— 1 Corinthians 11:1 (NKJV) (quoted; reference not named in the message)▶ Hear it at 20:27
What is the objective of the gospel?
He says it is to form Christ in you so that you are a light to the world, “a city set on a hill that everybody can see that imitates Jesus Christ.”
Scripture (NKJV)My little children, for whom I labor in birth again until Christ is formed in you,
— Galatians 4:19 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:03
How did Galatians 4:19 help him as a young Christian?
He says that as a young Christian man he was struggling to live for Christ, and the verse gave him tremendous hope. Then the Holy Ghost came along, he says, and that was a big boost in his ability to say no to sin and yes to right.
Scripture (NKJV)My little children, for whom I labor in birth again until Christ is formed in you,
— Galatians 4:19 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 21:03
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