Deflective Defective Disciples Part 2: full transcript and answers

▶ 0:00 Adultery, homosexuality, incest, intoxication. Okay, see, “my faith,” “I believe,” nothing’s wrong with it. Prosperity, positive thinking, possibility— you ever met these people that won’t say a negative thing? There: possibility thinking, prosperity thinking, Purpose Driven thinking, psychotherapy thinking, and one I didn’t have up there is this personal prophecy thinking. My gosh. And in a lot of Spirit-filled circles, you know, personal prophecy is just a dime a dozen. Just everybody’s giving out personal prophecies. Where is that in the Bible? They’re just flat out wrong. I don’t need no personal prophecy; I need the book. I need the Bible. Amen. It’s the sure word of prophecy, that’s what the Bible says.

▶ 1:01 Atheist and humanist and everybody’s got their own ideas. And in one of these they talked about atheists, and they said, yeah, everybody can go to heaven. And as Oprah put it, if you’re good— generosity, kindness and love— you can go to heaven no matter what. They’re just lying. Now, over here the end result is a Christian, a disciple of the divine nature. They’re pursuing the divine nature. Hallelujah, because that’s what this faith, Jesus’s faith, whole focus is on: you being a light to the world, living for him by doing good works.

▶ 1:57 Now, Revelation 21:8: “The cowardly, the unbelieving, the abominable”— abomination means God hates it, all right— “murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers,” which is witchcraft, “idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” And Joel Osteen doesn’t know, and T. D. Jakes doesn’t know, that these people are going to hell, and Rick Warren doesn’t know, and Oprah doesn’t know. It’s very plain in Revelation. This is just one scripture. He tells us plainly who’s going to the lake of fire, and homosexuals miss out on two counts: sexual immorality and abomination. It’s listed under both. Adultery, incest— these sins, will you burn for them? You can’t change the Bible because you want to be nice to people. Can I hear an amen?

▶ 3:03 And Christians are living in sexual immorality and doing all kinds of stupid things, and the preachers aren’t challenging them on Sunday to stop it, and everybody thinks they’re okay. Folks, you can’t change this. Idolatry is an abomination. Idolatry is listed twice up there, under abominations and under idolatry. Are you with me? And all liars: these guys are lying. How many liars go to hell? All of them. Now, folks, this is flagrant lying just so they can get crowds and money. They like the money, man. They live in million-dollar mansions and they drive big cars, and they got all these people coming wanting to hear their flattering messages. And America needs to hear that that’s wrong, and the Christians need to hear, the homosexual needs to hear that he’s wrong, so that he can get saved and change his ways. Can I hear an amen?

▶ 4:17 But so, the adulterers. John 11:27, the statement of “I believe”: “I believe you are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.” Okay. “I believe” is used four times, and every time it’s used this way. All right: I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the only begotten Son of God. Lucifer is not a begotten Son of God. Lucifer was a created being. Jesus was birthed in the flesh by God. Amen.

▶ 4:56 John 9:35: “Do you believe on the Son of God?” Jesus asked the man. He said, “Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?” Jesus said, “You have seen him, and it is he that talks with you.” I’m him, Jesus said. The man quickly says, “I believe.” I believe what? That you are the Son of God, that Jesus is the Son of God. How many believe that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God? Yeah. See, that’s what “I believe” should say: not “I believe homos can go to heaven,” and, “Oh, you know, I can get intoxicated and still go to heaven,” and all the rest. No.

▶ 5:37 Acts 8:37: Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may get baptized,” and the eunuch said, “I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” He said it again. Paul, in Acts 27:25, on the island— or before he got to the island, on the boat: “Be of good cheer, I believe God.” What’s the statement? “I believe God that it shall be as it was told me.” Now, that sums it up: I believe that God will do what he said he would do. Amen. I can’t come up with my own little gizmo doctrines, my feel-good doctrines.

▶ 6:30 The Bible, in judging: you hear them all say they wouldn’t judge. You hear that? I’m not going to judge anybody. Well, no, all sinned. T. D. Jakes, all not going to judge: I’m not going to judge. Well, the Bible already judges it. And ministers are supposed to be preaching the Bible. See, I’m not judging people when I, you know, when I tell people you’re going to hell. I’m telling them what the Bible said. God’s judgment is you’re going to hell. And I told you people last year said nobody talks like that. I said, the Bible talks like that.

▶ 7:07 And can you imagine going in for cancer, and the doctors don’t want to make a judgment? They don’t want to tell you that you’re going to die, and they just say, oh, you’re just fine, you’re just fine, you’re not going to die, you don’t need treatment, you’re just— you don’t need any kind of treatment, you don’t need any kind of medicine or anything else, you know. And in the end you what? Die, when you could have got some treatment and lived. And these preachers don’t want to tell people they’re going to die. See, the lake of fire we read is the second death. You’re going to die for eternity.

▶ 7:55 The Jews opposed things spoken by Paul, in Acts 13:45. So Paul boldly said— Paul what? Boldly said. He didn’t sit there silently and, well, I’m not going to judge. Well, you know, I haven’t read into that, I don’t have knowledge. No, he boldly said, “It was necessary the word of God be spoken to you first, you Jews, but since you reject it and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, we’re going to the Gentiles.” See, they judged themselves. They made a decision themselves to miss out on eternal life.

▶ 8:38 1 Corinthians 6:2: “Do you not know that the saints would judge the world?” Whoo! Are you out there, church? “If the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?” You can’t make decisions on the least little thing! You got these homosexuals and these Oprah telling you that— “Judge not, lest you be not judged. For what judgment you judge you shall be judged.” Come on!

▶ 9:08 “Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life?” Are we supposed to make judgments concerning this life? Yeah. Are we to make judgment on the very smallest matters, whether we buy a car we can’t afford, or will we buy a car we can’t afford? Are we supposed to make judgments? Yeah. Good grief. Raise your child up in the way they should go, or raise them up the way Dr. Spock said they should go? We got to make— we’re to make judgment. They’re lying to you, people out there.

▶ 9:57 Acts 15:19: “I judge.” What did he say? “I judge.” [Editor’s note: in Acts 15:19 the speaker is James, not Paul.] Oh my gosh, [unclear] is going to fall off his chair. Oprah and T. D. Jakes and Warren, what’s this? What are they going to do with this scripture? Paul’s judging. He’s making a decision. What’s his decision? “That we should not trouble the Gentiles who are turning to God, but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, sexual immorality, things strangled, and from blood.” Sexual immorality: no homosexuality, no adultery, no incest, no sex with kids, all sex in the marriage. That’s it. And he made that judgment. Don’t you think ministers should be making that judgment today? Absolutely.

▶ 10:50 God’s people are wimps because they’re listening to wimpy ministers. That’s right. They’re weak because they listen to weak preachers, and they ain’t got enough discipline to get on their knees and open that Bible up themselves and read a proverb a day and read [unclear] a day and read the Bible every day. I guarantee you, Christians that are in trouble are non-readers, and they don’t go to Bible studies where they actually hear somebody expound and open up the scriptures to them. They go to Bible studies mostly to associate, you know, they’re associating with this group, they got a connection with the group. You better get a connection with Jesus and his word. Yeah, that’s worth a clap. We don’t go to church to socialize. These churches, America’s churches, have got it wrong. We go to church to spiritualize. We need to become better spiritual people. Hallelujah.

▶ 12:00 1 Corinthians 5:9: “I wrote to you not to keep company with sexually immoral brethren, or greedy people, extortioners”— and revilers, they that blast people with their mouth— “drunkard, or idolaters. Not to eat with such a person. What have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are inside?” Did you hear that? “But those outside God judges. For this reason, put away yourselves from that evil person.” This guy was committing incest. He was having sex with his father’s wife, and Paul passed a judgment to kick this guy out of the church, and he told the Corinthian church, you got to make decisions.

▶ 12:56 2 Corinthians 5:14: “The love of Christ compels, because we judge this: if one died for all, then all died, and he died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves.” Good Lord, that’s so simple. That’s basic kindergarten Christianity: that if Christ died for you, you should be living not for yourself but for him who died for you and rose again. Can I hear an amen? I don’t have to live to please Rick Warren or T. D. Jakes or Joel Osteen. I’ve got to please Jesus Christ. Amen.

▶ 13:39 And let me tell you something, church: selfishness is why you got your problems. You’re only thinking about yourself and your feelings and what you want, and it creates problems. You just want your own way because you feel it’s right. Jesus, our example, laid down his life for us. If we’re going to follow his example, we’re going to what? Lay down our life. We’re not going to do what we want to do; we’re going to do what he wants us to do. Amen. We’re going to work, we’re going to get married, we’re going to stay married, we’re going to raise children, we’re going to raise them right. We judge this way. Are we to judge? Yes.

▶ 14:41 1 Corinthians 14:29: “Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others”— what? Judge. See, I have a right to take what Joel Osteen, Rick Warren, T. D. Jakes and Oprah and all these guys say. I have a right to make a decision if they’re scripturally correct. And I’m not out to lambaste the brethren or to divide the church. I am out to speak the truth so people can know the truth and the truth can set them free. Is that an amen?

▶ 15:15 I mean, it plainly says when somebody’s talking, there’s got to be somebody checking out whether they’re saying it right or not. Hallelujah. And that’s where personal prophecy goes right out the tube. There’s no one there to verify you’re speaking right. And let me tell you, I’ve heard a lot of lousy personal prophecies, and I just flat out— to him, you’re wrong, you missed it, bud. I mean, no, I can prophesy too. I mean, they act like they’re the only ones that’s got the gift, but let me tell you, I can prophesy. And when these prophets come in and they said this, that and the other, I said, you’re wrong. And they go, no way. I said, I got the proof, you’re wrong.

▶ 16:02 I know that person, and this is why you’re wrong. They got mad at me. But prophets should not be wrong. Can I hear an amen? And getting people dependent on your personal prophecies, that’s not scriptural. People have got to get dependent on the scriptures. Amen. And prophecies are good when they confirm and all that, but when they don’t, and they’re out of line, it’s destructive.

▶ 16:40 1 Corinthians 11:30: “Many are weak and sick among you, many are dead already, for if you would judge yourselves you would not be judged.” So we are to what? Judge ourselves. And that’s what the Sermon on the Mount is talking about when he says, “Judge not, lest you be judged. For with what judgment you judge you shall be judged,” and what you give out you’ll get given back to you. You better first get the 2x4 out of your eye, he said, so that you can see clearly to help the brother get a splinter out of his eye. All it’s saying is you start with yourself.

▶ 17:22 God’s solution for defective, deflective disciples and ministers: here’s his solution. Are you ready? Jeremiah 3:15: “I will give you shepherds according to my heart, who will feed you with knowledge and understanding.” The Bible says, “For lack of knowledge my people are destroyed,” and gone into captivity. They lack knowledge. And why? Because preachers in America aren’t giving them the knowledge to make decisions during the week. They’re making them feel good where they’re at. They’re not growing, they’re not changing, and they wind up destroying themselves.

▶ 18:02 Christian divorce is just as high as secular divorce. Christians having kids out of marriage is just as high as the secular. Christians in a single-parent home is just as high as the secular. Something’s wrong, church. Yes. The results aren’t there. At that time— I love this— he says he’s going to do it, and he tells us what’s going to happen at that time. Jerusalem— Hebrews 12 tells us Jerusalem is the church. Okay. At that time the church shall be called the Throne of the Lord. He is Lord; he’s ruling. We are following him. I love that. Do you see that? He’s not in a lot of churches. The throne is not in a lot of churches. The pastor is on the throne, because these people are worshiping pastors and ministers.

▶ 19:10 “And all nations shall be gathered to the throne” that’s in the church now. Is that Bible? We don’t gather to a minister or a group. We gather to the King on the throne in the church. Wow. “To the name of the Lord.” What’s his name? Jesus. Don’t give me no Buddha stuff. Don’t give me no Joseph Smith stuff. Don’t give me no [unclear]— I mean, Moroni, some angel that’s supposed to give— don’t give me that garbage. Give me Jesus. It’s his name I gather unto, it’s his throne together unto, and it’s his word that I must follow.

▶ 20:02 Now, that was good. No more— listen to this. See, you can tell what the time is. Am I making sense to you? I’m trying to give you Revelation here that can change your life. See, we can know what time frame we’re in. Are we in the time where the church has the throne of the Lord, and nations are gathering to the throne, and the King on the throne, and his name? “No more shall they follow the dictates of their evil hearts.” See, we know what time and what season we’re in when we aren’t doing what we want to do; we’re doing what he wants us to do. Oh gosh, that was good.

▶ 21:00 Oh, church, and you got to make decisions, and you got to stop listening to these idiot shepherds, because they flatter you and make you feel good. It’s the word that sets you free. It’s the word that heals you. It’s the word that causes you to grow. When we get distracted and deflect from the word, and deflect from the living word, Jesus, we’re going to fall into problems. Christians don’t have any power and strength today. They can’t overcome sin, and the preacher just feeds them: they’re okay where they’re at.

▶ 21:53 “No more shall they follow the dictates of their evil heart.” When you come to that place, you know you’re in this time, and you’re in the right group. And see, if you’re going to a church where he isn’t on the throne and not gathering to his name, and that people are doing what they want to do, you’re in the wrong group, man. Get out. Get to where you can get fed, get to where you can grow, get to where we can do something for Christ in this world together. Can I hear an amen?

▶ 22:30 Cowardly. Are you a coward today? You know, the first thing added to baby doctrine is virtue. Virtue is the courage to live and stand up for Bible morals, and you got to add that to your faith. Am I right? I’m just giving you Bible scriptures. And when you are a coward and you won’t stand up— I’m talking about your spouse, your children, your parents, your brothers and sisters, your neighbors, your enemies— and you don’t tell them Bible truths and Bible morality, you are a coward. What’s going to save them? They got to know. It’s still the foolishness of preaching that saves people.

▶ 23:39 Unbelieving: and we saw these disciples were what? Unbelievers, in John 6. Abominable things that God hates, which is idolatry, homosexuality, rape, things like that. There’s a whole list. There’s about thirty-three abominations in the Bible. There’s a whole— God hates them. Murderers: Jesus said if you hate— or the New Testament says if you hate, that is the same as murder. And we got Christians that hate skin color, social status, whatever. We have hatred, despise, we look down on people.

▶ 24:23 Sexually immoral, sorcerers, witchcraft. And I meet Christians in the witchcraft, and I meet Christians that are afraid of witches. Back at the Vine, these women got together and they read this book about how the witches were keeping Christian churches from growing and affecting the church, and I go, that’s not true. The Bible says there is no witchcraft against God’s people. Those witches can do all they want to do; it has no effect on the church. And they just look, well, you don’t know everything. I don’t, but the book knows everything. Ain’t no witch doctor can get outside the church and do the [unclear] thing and have any effect on us. Are you there?

▶ 25:22 But silly women— Paul said led astray. But you know, silly women, you got to watch, women, don’t— don’t be silly. Amen. Don’t be foolish. And “all liars shall have their part in a lake of burns with fire.” Were these guys lying? Were they lying? Absolutely. Don’t be afraid to say it, and don’t be afraid to email them and say, that’s not scripture. You know, I learned from people telling me like it was, because I wanted to be told like it was. I didn’t learn from people that were wimps. I didn’t learn from people that didn’t take an interest in people. I learned from people that took an interest in people, the right interest.

▶ 26:21 You know, there’s people that come to church and they never share Christ with anybody. They have no effect and [unclear] in the kingdom at all. They just come, hear a sermon, go, oh wow, what a great sermon. Hallelujah. Do their little thing that they do in their church and then go home, and they’re silent saints. They are worthless. And I’m looking at some today. We got the internet; you can talk to anybody. I told you I went right to Utah, talked right to headquarters.

▶ 27:04 How you know it’s time to speak up, hallelujah: it’s natural. When you really experience something and you know something, it’s just natural to talk about it. It isn’t like you got to get the courage up and pump it up. It’s just natural. You know, when somebody’s into baseball, it’s natural that they talk about baseball, right? People that are into God and truth, it’s just natural to speak truth, and you don’t have to argue about it. Just speak it and shut up. The Bible says it takes two people to argue; if one is silent, the argument ends. If you read your Proverbs you would know, but most of you do not read your Proverbs every day, principles of life.

▶ 27:55 Someone was telling me this week they got into a heated argument. I said, well, if you’d have just shut up after you said your statement, that wouldn’t have been a heated argument. Amen. I mean, what’s the sense, and just keep harping on it, harping on it, harping on it? Just say it and go on. Let God do the work. Can I hear an amen?

▶ 28:21 They’re all going to the lake of fire, folks. Now, because we know that to whom much is given, much is required, we have a responsibility to get this word out. We have a responsibility, church, to get organized and get out this message to everyone, believer and unbeliever alike, that Bible morality is part of getting into heaven. Amen. And Bible morality is what blesses my family. That’s what’s going to encourage my children, being an example and teaching them and directing them that way. That’s what’s going to help my family. It isn’t psychotherapy and positive thinking. Bible morality is what’s going to help people in the church, and it’s going to challenge the unmoral people to change their way. And that’s what the basic gospel is all about.