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Clarity on Crucial Choices: full transcript and answers
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The speaker sets three choices from Matthew 13:30 and Malachi 3:18: be good (best), be wicked (worst), or try good without God (humanism). Humanists and Bible followers can grow together if they agree on doing good (Galatians 6:10) and punishing harm. He charges humanist billboards with lies (Jefferson quote, Piltdown Man, faith vs proof) and summarizes: neither camp may harm others; harmers must be punished; unite around not hurting while choosing among following Jesus, rejecting Jesus without harm, or criminal wickedness.
What three crucial choices does he set out?
Short answer: From Matthew 13:30 and Malachi 3:18 he names choosing to be good (best), wicked (worst), or trying to do good without God as humanists do—or a Christian who believes but does not serve God. Being a humanist does not necessarily mean wicked, nor a Christian necessarily not wicked.
▶ 0:35 Today we’re going to look at clarity on crucial choices—whether we make bad choices, we can make better choices, and we can make the best choices. We’re going to be dealing with three choices this morning. In Matthew 13:30, let both the good and the wicked grow together until the harvest at the end of the world. In Malachi 3:18, you shall again discern between the righteous and the wicked—first choice, second choice—but then he’s adding another choice between one who serves God, which would be one that does good and right, and one who doesn’t, which could be a humanist that doesn’t believe in God and the Bible, or a Christian that believes in God but does not serve God. So we got these three choices: to choose to be good, which is the best choice; to be wicked, which is the bad choice, the worse; and a choice to try to do good without God, which the humanists try to do. Now being a humanist doesn’t necessarily mean you are wicked, and being a Christian does not necessarily mean you’re not wicked.
Scripture in this part
Matthew 13:30 (NKJV)
Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”
— Matthew 13:30 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 0:50Malachi 3:18 (NKJV)
Then you shall again discern Between the righteous and the wicked, Between one who serves God And one who does not serve Him.
— Malachi 3:18 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:00What does he say unites listed humanist groups?
Short answer: He says Manifesto II lists many humanist types who claim the humanist tradition; all reject Jesus and the Bible, and though the manifesto says merely rejecting God is not equivalent to humanism, he says they all base philosophy on Bible and Jesus as myth and no God.
▶ 2:03 Now the religion of secular humanism in its Manifesto II tries to separate bad humanists from their manifesto humanist, and they list the different humanist organizations: scientific, ethical, democratic, religious humanist, Marxist humanist, freethought, atheist, deist, rationalism, agnostics, skeptics, ethical cultural, and liberal religions—all claim to be heir to the humanist tradition, they say. And I want to make a note that all of these groups reject Jesus and the Bible. But in trying to separate the different humanist groups they list them and they say this statement: but views that merely reject God and the Bible, theism, are not equivalent to humanism. But they all got one thing that they base their philosophy on, and that is the Bible is a myth and Jesus is a myth and there is no God.
Where do humanists and Bible followers agree on “good”?
Short answer: He cites humanist billboards “good without God” and Buffett/Gates charity, and Galatians 6:10 do good to all. The Manifesto’s “short of harming others” means both camps must punish, correct, or remove evil so others are not hurt—or else their ideology is wicked.
▶ 3:17 Now the Bible said that the wicked and the righteous and the one that don’t serve God are supposed to grow together. So how do we do this? Number one, the humanist and the Bible followers agree on good. The humanists say that Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are good without God because they give billions to charity. They also have billboards going all throughout the country: Are you good without God? Millions are. They have another one that says millions of people are good without God—you don’t need religion to be a good moral person. And so humanists say they’re out for good. They believe in good. They believe we should do good. And the Bible says in Galatians 6:10, as we have opportunity let us do good to all people. And so we are in agreement that we’re supposed to do good. So good is the basics for living together and growing together. In the Humanist Manifesto it says, short of harming others, individuals should be permitted to express and pursue their desired lifestyles. The key here is short of harming others. So we must conclude that humanists and Bible followers must deal with bad people—whether they’re bad humanists or bad Bible followers. To get along we must agree that evil must be punished, corrected, or removed from society so they can’t hurt others. And also if humanist or Bible followers do not agree to do good and punish criminals, they are a wicked ideology, a wicked system of faith, a wicked philosophy, because they’re not agreeing to do good.
Scripture in this part
Galatians 6:10 (NKJV)
Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.
— Galatians 6:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:50What Jefferson billboard claim does he call a lie?
Short answer: He reads Proverbs 14:5 on false witness. He says humanist billboards quote Thomas Jefferson rejecting Christianity as fables—Jefferson never said that—and they lie about Bible, Jesus, and separation of church and state to leave only secular humanism free speech in public.
▶ 5:28 Now some things are disagreed on that may not directly harm others—like killing directly harms others, stealing directly harms others, sexual abuse and drug abuse and any mistreatment of other people directly hurts them. And so we’re going to look at a few things that humanist and Bible followers disagree on that may not directly hurt others. Proverbs 14:5, a faithful witness does not lie, but a false witness will utter lies. The humanists have billboards around the nation that says, I do not find in Christianity one redeeming feature; it is founded on fables and mythology—and they say that’s a quote of Thomas Jefferson. And Thomas Jefferson never said that. That is a blatant lie. They also lie about the Bible, Jesus, separation of church and state, thus leaving only secular humanism for free speech in public places. And that makes them an unfaithful, a false witness.
Scripture in this part
Proverbs 14:5 (NKJV)
A faithful witness does not lie, But a false witness will utter lies.
— Proverbs 14:5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:40What Piltdown Man and “faith” arguments does he make?
Short answer: He says Piltdown was taught 40 years as missing link from mixed bones and used in the Scopes trial—an unfaithful witness. John 8:31 and 17:17 say God’s word is truth. Billboard “celebrate reason” ignores Bible morals and early science claims. Humanists have no proof humanism works, so their philosophy is also faith; Bible followers may likewise use faith.
▶ 6:38 On evolution they’ve taught lies like this—Piltdown Man for 40 years they said he was the missing link from fragments of a skull, a human skull, and then the jawbone of an orangutan that they said was human, and some teeth that came from a chimpanzee that they filed down and put in there that say it was human. And they said this was the missing link for 40 years, and they used it in the Scopes trial. That’s an unfaithful witness. John 8:31 says continue in my word and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. John 17:17, your word is truth. The Bible never says it’s a book of faith. The Bible says it’s a book of truth. They have a billboard that says, you know it’s a myth this season—celebrate reason, celebrate intellect. But this same Bible says not to kill, not to steal, not immoral sex; you work six days; you work, provide for yourself; get knowledge; get love. These things are not myths. The Bible also says that the earth was a sphere, it was hung on nothing, the water cycle—the evaporation and rain coming—and the ocean currents before science even knew these things. And they quote that faith is that which has no proof—it’s based on what has no proof—and they say you want to believe something that is true because you want it to be true—that’s faith. Well, humanist, you have no proof that humanism works, and so you’re basing your humanist philosophy, your humanistic ideas, on faith, because you have no proof. So if you can use faith to back up what you want to get across to America, what is wrong with Christians and Bible followers using faith to back up the Bible?
Scripture in this part
John 8:31-32 (NKJV)
Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
— John 8:31-32 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:10John 17:17 (NKJV)
Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
— John 17:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:20Matthew 19:17 (NKJV)
So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
— Matthew 19:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:30Ecclesiastes 7:20 (NKJV)
For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.
— Ecclesiastes 7:20 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 8:35What does he say about “In Good We Trust” and mass-killing leaders?
Short answer: He says humanist billboards put “In Good We Trust” against “In God We Trust,” yet leaders since the French Revolution—Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin—killed twenty-some million. Claiming never to lie, steal, or sexually sin is self-deception; even Christians work at being good and make mistakes.
▶ 8:41 In Matthew 19:17 there is none good but God. Ecclesiastes 7:20, there’s not a just man on earth who does good and does not sin. Yet you humanists have this billboard around the nation: In Good We Trust—on our quarter instead of In God We Trust. You have more than three leaders, nations, that have killed 20 and some million people since the French Revolution—Mao of China, Pol Pot of Cambodia, and Stalin of Russia. That’s not good. Again you are—good without God, millions are—and what you’re telling us is you never lie, you never steal, you never commit sexual immorality, you don’t mistreat people, you don’t hate people. You are deceiving yourself. Even us Christians are trying and working at being good people. We make mistakes.
What does he say about immigration, work, and “something for nothing”?
Short answer: He cites one law for citizen and stranger (Numbers 15:16), labor as God’s gift (Ecclesiastes 3:13), and if you don’t work you don’t eat—against a billboard blaming capitalism and a manifesto guaranteed salary. Promoting something for nothing is like false religion promising heaven with no obligation to do good.
▶ 9:50 Numbers 15:16, there’s one law and one custom for citizens of a nation and the stranger that comes into a nation. Ecclesiastes 3:13, all must eat, drink, enjoy the good of his labor—must labor; it is a gift of God. And the Bible says if you don’t work you don’t eat. Yet you have a billboard that says we don’t have an immigration problem, we have a capitalism problem, because in your manifesto you said that you want to guarantee a yearly salary, minimum salary, to everyone in the nation—when the Bible says that the poor work for wealth, field droppings, corners of the field left for them, or they had to beg, or they had to sell themselves to someone in the nation for six years. When you promote something for nothing you’re just like false religions that promote eternal life without any obligation to do good. And a lot of religions are promoting something for nothing—all I got to do is believe in Jesus or believe in Allah or believe in something, and everything’s going to be okay, I’m going to go to heaven, and I don’t have to do good and I don’t have to do righteous. That is something for nothing.
Scripture in this part
Numbers 15:16 (NKJV)
One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.’ ”
— Numbers 15:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:00Ecclesiastes 3:13 (NKJV)
and also that every man should eat and drink and enjoy the good of all his labor—it is the gift of God.
— Ecclesiastes 3:13 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:10How can God’s people, humanists, and the wicked grow together?
Short answer: First, neither humanists nor God-followers may lie or harm others physically, financially, mentally, or spiritually. Second, when either hurts others they must be punished or corrected as criminals, and if they will not change, separated from society.
▶ 11:10 Now how can God’s people and humanists and the wicked grow or increase together? We’re going to summarize it. How can this possibly work out? Okay, we’ve given you the steps. We’re going to sum those steps. First of all, humanist nor God followers may lie to other people or do harm to other people physically, financially, mentally, or spiritually if we’re going to grow together and work together as a community, as a nation. Neither humanists that don’t believe in God nor God followers that believe in God have an excuse to hurt other people. All right. Secondly, when humanists or God followers hurt others they must be punished. You know, just because you’re a believer in Christ does not give you permission to hurt others, and because you don’t believe in God doesn’t give you permission to hurt others. And when we do we need to be punished or corrected for the wicked behavior, as we are no longer just believers or non-believers but we are criminals—and criminals need to be corrected, punished, and if we don’t change our harmful ways we need to be separated from society.
What three choices does he sum up at the end?
Short answer: Remember God cannot lie, God is love, love does no harm (Romans 13:10); laws should protect citizens from harm. Manifesto agrees “short of harming others.” Three choices: follow Jesus and don’t harm; reject Jesus and don’t harm (humanist); or follow/reject but hurt others—criminal wickedness requiring punishment. We must do good, not only talk.
▶ 12:50 Now we’ve got to remember and recall that God cannot lie, that God is love, and love does no harm to a neighbor. And in Romans 13:10 it says love fulfills the law. Every law written should be written to protect its citizens from harm, both from government and other citizens—and that’s the kind of laws that work. We got to remember these things, these high priorities. Next is we got to remember in the Humanist Manifesto they said, short of harming others, individuals should be permitted to express their likings and pursue their lifestyles as they desire. But the key is short of harming others. They agree with the Bible that they believe is a myth—we don’t have a right to hurt others. So we can unite around good, around not hurting others, and live amongst each other though one of us believes in God and the other doesn’t. So summing it up, there’s three choices: follow Jesus, the Bible, and don’t harm others; reject Jesus, the Bible, and don’t harm others—that would be the humanist; and number three, follow or reject Jesus in the Bible but we hurt others by criminal wicked behavior requiring punishment. In summation, we cannot just talk about doing good—we must do good.
Scripture in this part
Romans 13:10 (NKJV)
Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
— Romans 13:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 13:10More questions this message answers
Short answers drawn only from what he says in this message, each with the moment in the video.
What does Matthew 13:30 say about good and wicked growing together?
Let both grow together until the harvest at the end of the world.
Scripture (NKJV)Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”
— Matthew 13:30 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 0:50
What third discernment does Malachi 3:18 add?
Discern between the righteous and the wicked, and between one who serves God and one who does not.
Scripture (NKJV)Then you shall again discern Between the righteous and the wicked, Between one who serves God And one who does not serve Him.
— Malachi 3:18 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 1:00
What Manifesto phrase does he say is the key to living together?
Short of harming others—individuals may pursue lifestyles, but evil must still be punished, corrected, or removed.
What Bible verse does he pair with humanist “do good”?
Galatians 6:10—as we have opportunity let us do good to all people.
Scripture (NKJV)Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.
— Galatians 6:10 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 3:50
Did Thomas Jefferson say Christianity has no redeeming feature?
He says humanist billboards claim that quote, but Jefferson never said it—a blatant lie.
Scripture (NKJV)A faithful witness does not lie, But a false witness will utter lies.
— Proverbs 14:5 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 5:40
Does he say the Bible calls itself a book of faith or of truth?
He says the Bible never says it is a book of faith; it says it is a book of truth (John 17:17).
Scripture (NKJV)Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
— John 17:17 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 7:20
What scientific claims does he say the Bible made early?
Earth as a sphere hung on nothing, the water cycle, and ocean currents before science knew them—and commands not to kill, steal, or do immoral sex.
Which leaders does he cite against “good without God”?
Mao of China, Pol Pot of Cambodia, and Stalin of Russia—killing twenty-some million since the French Revolution.
What does Numbers 15:16 say about citizens and strangers?
One law and one custom for citizens and the stranger who comes into the nation.
Scripture (NKJV)One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.’ ”
— Numbers 15:16 (NKJV)▶ Hear it at 10:00
What is his final line on talking versus doing good?
In summation, we cannot just talk about doing good—we must do good.
About this transcript
This transcript comes from YouTube’s automatic English captions, which supply the timing and the words. Punctuation, capitalization and paragraphing were added by hand, and obvious caption errors were corrected; his wording was not rewritten. “[unclear]” marks a word or name that was not clear. Caption fixes: Bill Gates, Piltdown, orangutan, chimpanzee, Scopes, Mao, Pol Pot, Manifesto II. Named Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Thomas Jefferson, Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin. Unverified billboard claims and “20 and some million” deaths—flag. Mishearing possible on “mayo of china.” Part number: after You Are to Blame (14) and Hope and Change (15)—assign Part 16. Confirm series order with Michael. Speaker not named—confirm Kincer. Select any time to jump to that moment on YouTube.
